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MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:35 PM ET
You think buying out Richards is a done deal in the offseason? Do you think they would shop Nash as well in the offseason?
- Vukota



If the Rangers go out lame, against the Penguins, and Nash continues to sh!t the bed offensively the Rangers could very well shop Nash around the league this summer.

Richards was getting bought out regardless of what they did in the playoffs or how much he contributed to the postseason cause.

There is no scenario feasible that can justify the Rangers holding onto a potential albatross of a contract as his. With this offseason being the last, to buy out any remaining cap clogging contracts, the writing is on the wall for Richards future in NY.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 6 @ 12:35 PM ET
I think its something AV doesn't want, but for business reasons they have to do it. Shopping Nash, the Rangers gave up a lot for him, I can't see the Rangers looking to trade him if they are going to buy out Richards. For one, what the heck are you going to back for him at this point?
- Blueshirts4ever


True, you really can't trade him now because his return won't be anywhere near what you gave up to get him.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
I think its something AV doesn't want, but for business reasons they have to do it. Shopping Nash, the Rangers gave up a lot for him, I can't see the Rangers looking to trade him if they are going to buy out Richards. For one, what the heck are you going to back for him at this point?
- Blueshirts4ever



Don't underestimate the stupidity of multiple franchises.

Nash did score 26 goals in 64 games played this season. As bad as his postseason resume is he still is a reliable regular season goal scorer and that has value around the league.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
True, you really can't trade him now because his return won't be anywhere near what you gave up to get him.
- Vukota



They really didn't give up a ton to get him. Dubinsky is the only player, thus far, that seems to be truly missed by the organization.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 6 @ 12:39 PM ET
If the Rangers go out lame, against the Penguins, and Nash continues to sh!t the bed offensively the Rangers could very well shop Nash around the league this summer.

Richards was getting bought out regardless of what they did in the playoffs or how much he contributed to the postseason cause.

There is no scenario feasible that can justify the Rangers holding onto a potential albatross of a contract as his. With this offseason being the last, to buy out any remaining cap clogging contracts, the writing is on the wall for Richards future in NY.

- MidnightMarauder


Yeah I figured Richards would be done regardless. Only thing that could F them is if Richards gets seriously hurt before the end of the playoffs then they wouldn't be able to buy him out in the offseason
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
They really didn't give up a ton to get him. Dubinsky is the only player, thus far, that seems to be truly missed by the organization.
- MidnightMarauder


Gotcha
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

May 6 @ 12:43 PM ET
You think buying out Richards is a done deal in the offseason? Do you think they would shop Nash as well in the offseason?
- Vukota

Richards should be a done deal but who's gonna take Nash, he as good as ours for the duration of his contract, he'll show flashes of dominance in between the weeks of utter frustration
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 12:43 PM ET
They really didn't give up a ton to get him. Dubinsky is the only player, thus far, that seems to be truly missed by the organization.
- MidnightMarauder


At the time of the trade Anisimov was the one I was most sorry to see go. Dubinsky was horrible that year.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:45 PM ET
Yeah I figured Richards would be done regardless. Only thing that could F them is if Richards gets seriously hurt before the end of the playoffs then they wouldn't be able to buy him out in the offseason
- Vukota



Yea, sure seems like you are rooting for this scenario to unfold though, hahaha.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
At the time of the trade Anisimov was the one I was most sorry to see go. Dubinsky was horrible that year.
- mdw7413



Both are middle of the road type of forwards but Dubinsky really seems to thrive in postseason play.

Nash, by all rights, is still the best player in that trade but his lack of playoff production is truly alarming and without a doubt a huge disappointment.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Yea, sure seems like you are rooting for this scenario to unfold though, hahaha.
- MidnightMarauder

Sather will find a way out. Just like that dark day he got rid of Gomez.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Yea, sure seems like you are rooting for this scenario to unfold though, hahaha.
- MidnightMarauder

Nah , I don't like to see anybody get seriously hurt. Would I lose sleep if it happened? No I wouldn't
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:50 PM ET
Richards should be a done deal but who's gonna take Nash, he as good as ours for the duration of his contract, he'll show flashes of dominance in between the weeks of utter frustration
- cranford93



Nash is who he is and it's something the Rangers will likely be stuck with.
Tiogadog
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Madison, VA
Joined: 10.04.2006

May 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
Curious question... no troll intended:

At this point in the playoffs what are your thoughts on the St. Louis / Callahan trade? In losing Callahan, to me anyway, the Rangers lost a player who was really able to get Crosby and Malkin off their games.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
Both are middle of the road type of forwards but Dubinsky really seems to thrive in postseason play.

Nash, by all rights, is still the best player in that trade but his lack of playoff production is truly alarming and without a doubt a huge disappointment.

- MidnightMarauder



Absolutely, looking at it now, and the way Dubinsky played against Pitt this year, I would take than in a heart beat over what Nash has shown us this year.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
Sather will find a way out. Just like that dark day he got rid of Gomez.
- Cptmjl



Richards is being bought out and Nash will likely be stuck here. Unless, and only unless, he can find a fellow brain dead general manager to take Nash and his bloated five year contract off the Ranger books.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

May 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
Richards is being bought out and Nash will likely be stuck here. Unless, and only unless, he can find a fellow brain dead general manager to take Nash and his bloated five year contract off the Ranger books.
- MidnightMarauder

Nash also has to ok the trade.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
Curious question... no troll intended:

At this point in the playoffs what are your thoughts on the St. Louis / Callahan trade? In losing Callahan, to me anyway, the Rangers lost a player who was really able to get Crosby and Malkin off their games.

- Tiogadog



Callahan wasn't a Marchand type pest. Pittsburgh's two big guns still thrived against the Rangers while Callahan was here.

I like the trade regardless of St. Louis' offensive struggles. Callahan was a good player but nowhere near what he was demanding and Sather got a player for someone who was likley leaving on July 1st.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
Nash also has to ok the trade.
- mighty13duck



Exactly, which is why I think Nash is the Rangers problem for the remainder of his contract.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 6 @ 12:57 PM ET
Curious question... no troll intended:

At this point in the playoffs what are your thoughts on the St. Louis / Callahan trade? In losing Callahan, to me anyway, the Rangers lost a player who was really able to get Crosby and Malkin off their games.

- Tiogadog


Me personally, I still do the trade. I actually think we are doing a decent job against Crosby & Malkin. And thats with McDonagh still probably hurt, and Girardi playing like poop. I don't think Callahan would make much of a difference right now. That's just my opinion though.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

May 6 @ 1:02 PM ET
I really don't want to get into the buyout stuff and off season debates until after the season, because we will have 4 months for all that talk, but people who are advocating amnestying Rick Nash need to realize that the regular buyout of his contract is actually rather buyout friendly:

Rick Nash buyout from CapGeek.com
2014-15: $2,566,667
2015-16: $2,566,667
2016-17: $2,466,667
2017-18: $2,266,667
2018-19: $2,666,667
2019-20: $2,666,667
2020-21: $2,666,667
2021-22: $2,666,667

if they use the amnesty, it will only be for Brad Richards, whose regular buyout is absurd:

Brad Richards buyout from CapGeek.com
2015-16: $1,000,000
2016-17: $4,500,000
2017-18: $6,500,000
2018-19: $6,500,000
2019-20: $6,500,000
2020-21: $833,333
2021-22: $833,333
2022-23: $833,333
2023-24: $833,333
2024-25: $833,333
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 6 @ 1:04 PM ET
Sather will find a way out. Just like that bright day he acquired McDonagh
- Cptmjl


Fixed
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 6 @ 1:07 PM ET
funny how when the Islander fans showed up in this blog it got back normal. Some (not all) of those pens fans were giving me a headache.

Thanks Guys
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 6 @ 1:08 PM ET
Fixed
- climbdenali12

That was one contract I thought Sather would never wiggle his way out of. Not only did he but he got a first pairing in the process. I know nobody knew Mcdonagh was going to be the player he turned out to be but he was a damn good prospect. For Gomez? Unreal.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

May 6 @ 1:09 PM ET
Nashville hired Peter Laviolette
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