But you don't understand how that stat works. LA stops the Flyers from generating offense, Flyers redeem their 50% corsi by playing the worse teams after getting beat by LA in this department. You can't compare the two teams like that. That is NOT how you read that stat.
- FlyersSteve118

So LA doesn't compile any of their Corsi stats against poor teams? I understand exactly how that stat works.

<-- Farmers Only
- Tomahawk

they need love, too.

Flyers wouldn't let G go. Schenn and Read are going. No news on any others, afaik.
- Tomahawk

Really?

Really?
- PhillySportsGuy

Apparently they need him to compete in a ball hockey tournament in Philly.

Really?
- PhillySportsGuy

Frank Seravalli @DNFlyers
Holmgren said #Flyers would not allow Claude Giroux to play for Hockey Canada during World Champs. Giroux was awkward when asked about it.

5V5 close is what we're talking about.

Teams that go up 2+ goals sit back -- aka score effects.
- Tomahawk

No, 5 on 5 close is where the conversation is being steered, to avoid the obvious. Of all the conversations we've had on here, it's never been about 5 on 5 Corsi? None of the opinions you've offered on advanced statistics have dealt with 5 on 5 Corsi? Only 5 on 5 Corsi close?

I understand score effects, and why that is used. I'm talking about 5V5 Corsi.

Read scored in today's exhibition game
- wilsonecho91

that really doesn't help us, michael.

Frank Seravalli @DNFlyers
Holmgren said #Flyers would not allow Claude Giroux to play for Hockey Canada during World Champs. Giroux was awkward when asked about it.
- Tomahawk

Like, Cole Hamels awkward?

Less CORSI talk

More large breasted women talk

Frank Seravalli @DNFlyers
Holmgren said #Flyers would not allow Claude Giroux to play for Hockey Canada during World Champs. Giroux was awkward when asked about it.
- Tomahawk

I'm hoping Giroux didn't want to go and the team offered to take the heat for it.

Less CORSI talk

More large breasted women talk
- jmatchett383

i'd be happy to discuss shay maria, stats or not.

Bonus points if the image has no IP release and still has the stock company's watermark on it.
- Tomahawk

"You should have something in your media kit that tells me how to build an ad the way you want it. Maybe you could list some of the possible pitfalls I could miss when I do it myself."

I had a client tell me this I swear to every god that graced this earth. I put him on mute and asked the President of my company if I could tell him that we couldn't fit a college education and 20 yrs experience in our media kit. He said no.

i'd be happy to discuss shay maria, stats or not.
- hammarby31

Those can't be real, can they?

No, 5 on 5 close is where the conversation is being steered, to avoid the obvious. Of all the conversations we've had on here, it's never been about 5 on 5 Corsi? None of the opinions you've offered on advanced statistics have dealt with 5 on 5 Corsi? Only 5 on 5 Corsi close?

I understand score effects, and why that is used. I'm talking about 5V5 Corsi.
- MJL

I'm always referring to 5V5 close, or word it as CF/FF in 'close situations'.

"You should have something in your media kit that tells me how to build an ad the way you want it. Maybe you could list some of the possible pitfalls I could miss when I do it myself."

I had a client tell me this I swear to every god that graced this earth. I put him on mute and asked the President of my company if I could tell him that we couldn't fit a college education and 20 yrs experience in our media kit. He said no.
- mayorofangrytown

So, question for you, with the preface I haven't been following your conversation.

Say I want to make a label for a product my company sells. I'm an engineer. I can generate a pretty handy JPEG or PDF, and I know some guys that do "the Photoshop." If I came to you with a file like that, would you be able to do anything with it?

I'm hoping Giroux didn't want to go and the team offered to take the heat for it.
- PhillySportsGuy

That's what I was thinking. That the Flyers did a solid for Giroux here.

I'm always referring to 5V5 close, or word it as CF/FF in 'close situations'.
- Tomahawk

I'm always referring to Bruce Campbell.

I'm always referring to 5V5 close, or word it as CF/FF in 'close situations'.
- Tomahawk

Not true, we've had umpteen conversations based on simple 5 on 5 Corsi, both concerning players and teams.

Boys, can you please take the pissing match to PM?

Here's a good article on Zone Entries by an ex player, and his insights on it.

http://blogs.thescore.com...entries-as-a-hockey-stat/

Highlighted from the wrap-up section at the bottom are the following observations by the author.

"I don’t yet think zone entries are particularly valuable when assessing a single player just yet. In making player-by-player comparisons on a single team, maybe, but given that so many – SO many – decisions are dictated by the opposing team, I think those numbers might be more circumstantial than reflective of individual play."


"But for now, I can only see zone entries as a stat useful in the big picture (which can obviously change down the road). They might be able to help a team highlight a defensive weakness, they can help define certain player styles, but I’m still not sure I see a solid way to use them beyond that just yet."

Boys, can you please take the pissing match to PM?
- jmatchett383

Here's a good spot.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...116892&page=last#12688230

Not true, we've had umpteen conversations based on simple 5 on 5 Corsi, both concerning players and teams.
- MJL

Nope. You can read back through this thread and previous threads, I'm always making a point to declare 'close'.

Seriously... if you have any questions about the basics, I'd be happy to take the time to walk you through them in PM. I know this stuff is confusing, and it's easy to get mixed up. You don't have to believe in it or anything, but it might be helpful to have a rough idea of the broader strokes.

that really doesn't help us, michael.


- hammarby31

well someone asked

Nope. You can read back through this thread and previous threads, I'm always making a point to declare 'close'.

Seriously... if you have any questions about the basics, I'd be happy to take the time to walk you through them in PM. I know this stuff is confusing, and it's easy to get mixed up. You don't have to believe in it or anything, but it might be helpful to have a rough idea of the broader strokes.
- Tomahawk

Meet me over at this thread. We'll find out who understands what!


http://www.hockeybuzz.com...116892&page=last#12688230