Just heard on Toronto sports radio that the Preds are looking at Lavy as their next coach.

He is a big Vinny fan. Maybe he brings him along if he gets the job.
I would still like to see Vinny get another chance.

I agree with Washington Guys. I am just saying the Flyers have to get a little creative in looking at YOUNG reclomation types or low risk/high reward types. Everyone is so quick to say go get Niskanen but if you pay him then we aren't going to fix the offense. I just want them to be a little creative
- J35Bacher

I agree with you. But throwing offer sheets all over the place is not a smart way to acquire players. It very seldom works, and it takes away your FA signing ability. If they want to target young players, then trading assets that you feel will ultimately help your team is a much more surefire way of doing it.

Yeah, he's plays like a lobotomized poor man's Nik Grossmann.

(but he played for Canada U20 so you know he's on the radar)
- Tomahawk

Has the offensive game on WJC star Ryan Parent.

Wow with that 4.5mil penalty the flyers could send a sizeable offer sheet to torey krug (like 3-4mil) and completely screw over the bruins. They might not be able to match something like that lol.
- FlyersSteve118

But then the Flyers would end up stuck with an overpriced, undersized defenseman who needs to be sheltered on the 3rd pair and on the PP.

I agree with you. But throwing offer sheets all over the place is not a smart way to acquire players. It very seldom works, and it takes away your FA signing ability. If they want to target young players, then trading assets that you feel will ultimately help your team is a much more surefire way of doing it.
- jmatchett383

I didn't say all over the place but it is a tool to use. Do we know if Tinordi will be in Montreals plans. Thye have to pay Subban and Markov. Plus have Yemlin, Wever, and have some young dmen

Bill, just a heads up, CapGeek has Akeson with 1 season or 60-games remaining before he loses waiver-exempt status:

http://www.capgeek.com/wa..._games_radio=1&Calculate=
- Tomahawk

I don't know if Capgeek has updated its waiver calculator to reflect the 2014-15 season. The exemption rule is three pro seasons or 69 NHL games played (combined regular season and playoffs), whichever comes first.

This season was Akeson's third full pro season after being signed at age 21. Pretty sure he won't be waiver exempt next season.

I didn't say all over the place but it is a tool to use. Do we know if Tinordi will be in Montreals plans. Thye have to pay Subban and Markov. Plus have Yemlin, Wever, and have some young dmen
- J35Bacher

But again, the only way to have a snowball's chance in hell of the OS working is to to overpay for the player. With the Flyers D prospects, it may be in their best interests to exercise a bit of patience and see if one or 2 of those guys can step in.

If you think that signing a player like Tinordi, or Krug, or Larsson transforms this team into a Stanley Cup threat for next season, then do it. But if it's not, let's wait a year or two and try to build through smart signings from within like most other Cup contending teams have. The "win now" mentality only work if you are in a position to "win now."

I don't know if Capgeek has updated its waiver calculator to reflect the 2014-15 season. The exemption rule is three pro seasons or 69 NHL games played (combined regular season and playoffs), whichever comes first.

This season was Akeson's third full pro season after being signed at age 21. Pretty sure he won't be waiver exempt next season.
- bmeltzer

Isn't it 3 NHL seasons or 69-games?

(or 4-years since he signed his contract)

Isn't it 3 NHL seasons or 69-games?

(or 4-years since he signed his contract)
- Tomahawk

I think that games played rule is NHL only, but the seasons are "pro seasons."

Certainly would soften the blow of when they trade Schenn for Jared Cowen, aka The Other Luke Schenn.
- Tomahawk

Does Luke's mom know that?

Bill, just a heads up, CapGeek has Akeson with 1 season or 60-games remaining before he loses waiver-exempt status:

http://www.capgeek.com/wa..._games_radio=1&Calculate=


As for the player, I think he's in the same boat as guys like Clarke MacArthur or Rich Peverley... guys who were written off as career AHL stars, who would have to score to stay in the NHL, but eventually showed that they were more than just offensive specialists once they were given a chance at more responsibility.

Akeson deserves a lot of credit for the way he played under pressure in the Rangers series, especially when you consider that Read didn't play all that well and Coots was playing through a sports hernia. That line was still the Flyers' 2nd-best at driving play, and most of it was due to Akeson being a very strong possession player throughout the series, while not being much of a liability on defense.

I agree that he's going to have to show up to camp assuming that he's still going to have to fight tooth and nail for a spot, but he's never exactly had anything handed to him since he turned pro, so I'm actually pretty confident that we'll see him in the lineup next season.
- Tomahawk

To be in the same boat as MacArthur and Peverly, he's going to have to actually do what they did, before being compared. He definitely has a chance. He's shown he can make plays with the puck, and play with poise with the puck. As far as driving play, giving most of the credit of that to Akeson is a huge stretch. Give him credit for contributing. But as far as driving play, he was a beneficiary more then being the one most responsible for it.
I see him in the same boat as Lauridsen was last year. He played himself into the mix. But that didn't put Lauridsen in the NHL this past season. We'll see if Akeson makes it. I think it's a long shot, but he has a chance. He's going to have to put up points on a pretty consistent basis to stay. He has to prove he can do that.

I just read somewhere that Kadri and Gardnier and a first to get number one overal. So can schenn, Schenn, 1st and something else gt the Flyers number one overal. They can draft Ekbald and really start the defensive rebuild. That is if Schenn can't be signed. At least it allows Vinny to move back to center if you can't move him. Then you have youngsters like Morin, Ghostisbier, Hagg, Alt coming up at different times.

Just spit balling so don't just say no and not offer any other solutions. Trying to think outside the box to make my favorite team better

Just heard on Toronto sports radio that the Preds are looking at Lavy as their next coach.

He is a big Vinny fan. Maybe he brings him along if he gets the job.
I would still like to see Vinny get another chance.
- 3flyerkids

Lavvy's gonna get a job somewhere. He's a good coach.

Nashville would probably be a good place to land.

I think that games played rule is NHL only, but the seasons are "pro seasons."
- jmatchett383

Meh, it's way more complicated than it has to be:

http://www.litterboxcats....vers-cba-florida-panthers

Additionally, for players twenty or older, all professional games count, not just NHL games. This includes all minor league games and European league games while the player is on loan and signed to an NHL team. For waiver purposes, age eighteen means the player reaches that age between January 1 and September 15 of the draft year. Ages from nineteen to twenty-one mean that the player reaches that age during the year of the draft.

Now we've just gotta figure out what "age" Akeson was when he inked his deal... but I'd really be surprised if CapGeek's calculator hasn't been updated yet... that's of course assuming I entered the data in correctly to begin with. Maybe somebody can double-check my poop.

I just read somewhere that Kadri and Gardnier and a first to get number one overal. So can schenn, Schenn, 1st and something else gt the Flyers number one overal. They can draft Ekbald and really start the defensive rebuild. That is if Schenn can't be signed. At least it allows Vinny to move back to center if you can't move him. Then you have youngsters like Morin, Ghostisbier, Hagg, Alt coming up at different times.

Just spit balling so don't just say no and not offer any other solutions. Trying to think outside the box to make my favorite team better
- J35Bacher

Can it? Maybe. Should they? Not at all.

Ekblad could be a very good player. But he is the top defenseman in a VERY weak draft. He would have had a hard time cracking the top-5 last year. He's not a Jones, or a Doughty, or even a Pietrangelo. He's more of an Erik Johnson projection.

Other solutions: Stand pat and let your young players develop and have them contribute in a year or two.

Meh, it's way more complicated than it has to be:

http://www.litterboxcats....vers-cba-florida-panthers





Now we've just gotta figure out what "age" Akeson was when he inked his deal... but I'd really be surprised if CapGeek's calculator hasn't been updated yet... that's of course assuming I entered the data in correctly to begin with. Maybe somebody can double-check my poop.
- Tomahawk

He was 21 when he signed. He played as an overager in the OHL and signed as a 21-year-old FA.

I read that link too. But that says it's 80 games, not 69. And it says all professional games, which should have made him non-exempt going into this year, right? Since he played more than 80 "professional" games after his first 2 AHL seasons.

I'm more confused now than I was before.

I'm more confused now than I was before.
- jmatchett383

Haha, same.

It just seems too early for him to be subject to waivers already, right?

Haha, same.

It just seems too early for him to be subject to waivers already, right?
- Tomahawk

Well, Gus lost his exemption before this past season, which also seemed early. They're about the same age, right?

But again, the only way to have a snowball's chance in hell of the OS working is to to overpay for the player. With the Flyers D prospects, it may be in their best interests to exercise a bit of patience and see if one or 2 of those guys can step in.

If you think that signing a player like Tinordi, or Krug, or Larsson transforms this team into a Stanley Cup threat for next season, then do it. But if it's not, let's wait a year or two and try to build through smart signings from within like most other Cup contending teams have. The "win now" mentality only work if you are in a position to "win now."
- jmatchett383

Why go after a player like Krug with an OS, which would result in an inflated Cap hit. When you have a player like Ghostibehere, who is in the same mold, as a smaller, offensive PP defenseman, already in the system?

Can it? Maybe. Should they? Not at all.

Ekblad could be a very good player. But he is the top defenseman in a VERY weak draft. He would have had a hard time cracking the top-5 last year. He's not a Jones, or a Doughty, or even a Pietrangelo. He's more of an Erik Johnson projection.

Other solutions: Stand pat and let your young players develop and have them contribute in a year or two.
- jmatchett383

If you can't get B. Schenn signed then the deal is a good deal.

Isn't it 3 NHL seasons or 69-games?

(or 4-years since he signed his contract)
- Tomahawk

No, AHL Seasons count as a Pro season played.

Why go after a player like Krug with an OS, which would result in an inflated Cap hit. When you have a player like Ghostibehere, who is in the same mold, as a smaller, offensive PP defenseman, already in the system?
- MJL

That's my point. Ghost is expected to be a very similar player. The difference is that Ghost will benefit from some AHL time (1/2 year at least), and some people aren't willing to wait.

I just read somewhere that Kadri and Gardnier and a first to get number one overal. So can schenn, Schenn, 1st and something else gt the Flyers number one overal. They can draft Ekbald and really start the defensive rebuild. That is if Schenn can't be signed. At least it allows Vinny to move back to center if you can't move him. Then you have youngsters like Morin, Ghostisbier, Hagg, Alt coming up at different times.

Just spit balling so don't just say no and not offer any other solutions. Trying to think outside the box to make my favorite team better
- J35Bacher

I would think the Leafs would look for immediate help if they were to deal those 2 players. The fan base is still not over the fact that they did not make playoffs

Well, Gus lost his exemption before this past season, which also seemed early. They're about the same age, right?
- jmatchett383

Yeah, Gus just lost his, and he was 2-years older, and technically played parts of 4 pro seasons before losing it... confusing.

If you can't get B. Schenn signed then the deal is a good deal.
- J35Bacher

Depending on what the "something else" is, then yes, it is. But I don't think they'll have much trouble signing him, to be honest.