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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:05 PM ET
Would that be former Penguin prospect Stan Drulia, or do I have the wrong league? He had a very long and successful minor league career.
- Oneonta Penguin


No, Patrice Lefebvre. 595 points in 276 games

http://www.chl.ca/page/most-points-career
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 12 @ 4:05 PM ET
No, Patrice Lefebvre. 595 points in 276 games

http://www.chl.ca/page/most-points-career

- jmatchett383



Forgot, Stan played in the OHL.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
Forgot, Stan played in the OHL.
- Oneonta Penguin


Those are CHL records, not QMJHL. He's on that page, at the bottom. He's the all-time OHL leader.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
Its taking too looong!

I threw an edit on the comment your referencing and no, I dont always take the high road. But in hockey I've never had my teammates clean up for me. The worst kinds of teammates I ever had would stir the pot to a boil and skate away or hop the boards. It's very annoying.

- Topshelf Mountain

You ever play for a team where your best player gets abused and no one steps up ever? He shouldn't have to do that stuff but no ones there to help
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

May 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
87 and 71 doing conference at 4:40. That's not the norm. Should be interesting.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:11 PM ET
You ever play for a team where your best player gets abused and no one steps up ever? He shouldn't have to do that stuff but no ones there to help
- dbell646


Kunitz was, sorta. I like the old regulator guys. The ones where a player's taking liberties with your star, so they get the other team's star in the corner and give him a stick in the teeth and say, "Tell your boy to calm down, or it's gonna be worse next time." But that's just me.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
Kunitz was, sorta. I like the old regulator guys. The ones where a player's taking liberties with your star, so they get the other team's star in the corner and give him a stick in the teeth and say, "Tell your boy to calm down, or it's gonna be worse next time." But that's just me.
- jmatchett383



I have been thinking you were a closet Penguins fan for a while. I think you are over here more than your own board.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:20 PM ET
I have been thinking you were a closet Penguins fan for a while. I think you are over here more than your own board.
- Oneonta Penguin


I like it here more, honestly. You have less idiots (less, not none).
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

May 12 @ 4:22 PM ET
You ever play for a team where your best player gets abused and no one steps up ever? He shouldn't have to do that stuff but no ones there to help
- dbell646


Before injuries I was the abused but I backed it up. After injuries I did the dirty work when the talent needed it. To answer your question, yes. I think I covered that in my earlier post about stirring the pot and bailing.

I like Crosby. This will be one of those things I'll need to look past, much like when Mario would do some of his flops.

I do think the greatest quality that comes from playing hockey is accountability. I think it's why you hardly ever meet a hockey player who's a genuinely bad person. It's probably the reason his antics last night bothered me.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

May 12 @ 4:27 PM ET
I like it here more, honestly. You have less idiots (less, not none).
- jmatchett383



Never perfect here. That's okay. You and Bully are welcome around here anytime.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

May 12 @ 4:29 PM ET
I like it here more, honestly. You have less idiots (less, not none).
- jmatchett383


So do you have other sites to go for Flyers talk? Or do you just want to be around hockey talk?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:32 PM ET
Before injuries I was the abused but I backed it up. After injuries I did the dirty work when the talent needed it. To answer your question, yes. I think I covered that in my earlier post about stirring the pot and bailing.

I like Crosby. This will be one of those things I'll need to look past, much like when Mario would do some of his flops.

I do think the greatest quality that comes from playing hockey is accountability. I think it's why you hardly ever meet a hockey player who's a genuinely bad person. It's probably the reason his antics last night bothered me.

- Topshelf Mountain


He was over-the-top last night. To me, though, you have to let the other team's best player know it's not acceptable. It's when Bortuzzo and Pouliot go into a corner, and Pouliot leaves feeling like he'll never have kids again because Bortuzzo drives his knee into his groin. And as Bortuzzo skates away, he says, "You can thank Moore for that. St. Louis is next."

Now, you can't do that in a Game 7, or even a Game 6. It should have been done 2 games ago to keep things more honest.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:35 PM ET
So do you have other sites to go for Flyers talk? Or do you just want to be around hockey talk?
- Topshelf Mountain


I've found that, for better or worse, this is the best site for Flyers/hockey talk, at least on the blogs I visit. I mean, every site will have the good and the bad, but this is generally good.

Most Flyers fans are the "HIT HIM!" "SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT" "HIT SOMEONE" "CROSBY SUCKS!" guys, and I loathe those bastards. They're also the ones to completely overreact. It will go from, "We need to trade Hartnell, he's the worst player ever," to "Man, Hartnell's on right now, he's playing great," and back in a matter of a day. It's really insane to try to deal with.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 12 @ 4:43 PM ET
Full props to the Rags, they could have laid down in game 5 but i think the story is the team rallying around MSL. As a guy whos mother died at an early age, i feel for Marty and everything thats happened says the Pens don't have what it takes to get it down. When it comes down to it, its Flower vs the Swede, geee who would you pick in a deciding game? I can sit here and criticize specific Pens players, but i am not putting this collapse of Flower. After last season, i never wanted to see him in a Pens uni again, but Sid has just been terrible and an embarrassment to the franchise. If i was HCDB i would have healthy scratched him a few games ago, but i think Dan knows his fate and will be fired promptly after they are eliminated. Not to say he isnt an outstanding coach, i really think he is, but this is how the biz works. So i sit here criticizing players on the team i root for, id like to make a parting shot though, D Moore is a classless scrub, and if the Pens go down in 7, i really wouldnt mind Neal taking his head off in Neals last game as a Pen.
- BillKessel


Just to make sure I didn't read that wrong, you would have healthy scratched Crosby?
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

May 12 @ 4:44 PM ET
I've found that, for better or worse, this is the best site for Flyers/hockey talk, at least on the blogs I visit. I mean, every site will have the good and the bad, but this is generally good.

Most Flyers fans are the "HIT HIM!" "SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT" "HIT SOMEONE" "CROSBY SUCKS!" guys, and I loathe those bastards. They're also the ones to completely overreact. It will go from, "We need to trade Hartnell, he's the worst player ever," to "Man, Hartnell's on right now, he's playing great," and back in a matter of a day. It's really insane to try to deal with.

- jmatchett383


That is why I left this site six years ago. It was wicked bad and if you had an opinion it was wrong. No give and take. No rationale. It's a lot better these days...easier to ignore. Also think having a lot of regulars from the early years of this site helps a bit. You quasi get to know someone, being understanding is a lot easier.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

May 12 @ 4:49 PM ET
Feed of 87 and 71 presser
http://cbsloc.al/19XsoJ2
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 4:52 PM ET
Just to make sure I didn't read that wrong, you would have healthy scratched Crosby?
- acdc1206


Yeah...he seems to think that would be a great course of action. Read back a page or two.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 12 @ 4:55 PM ET
The thing that's so maddening about this team is that they have it within them to be absolutely dominant. We've seen it for stretches in each series. Its like they are schizophrenic.
- Emperor Filonius


Without a doubt to me that is what is frustrating about the team. They can look like they can toy with any team at will and then they look like they put on skates for the first time in their lives. They have been so incredibly inconsistent from shift to shift, period to period, game to game. Still they are just one win from their second straight ECF. If they could just maintain a consistent balance then they could be so good as we have seen at times. I have no idea which team will show up tomorrow night. They need to get on the board first so doubt doesn't creep in. The Rangers weren't just going to lay down and go away for them. Tomorrow's game could really have a lasting impact on the future of this franchise and the direction it is going in. It's going to be fascinating to watch.

The powerless play needs to wake up. No excuse with the players they have to be that anemic. I give credit to NY's PK but still to get a single PP goal is just awful.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 12 @ 5:04 PM ET
Yeah...he seems to think that would be a great course of action. Read back a page or two.
- jmatchett383


Just when I thought I've read it all on here.

I've lost all faith in humanity.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 12 @ 5:12 PM ET
Feed of 87 and 71 presser
http://cbsloc.al/19XsoJ2

- HopintheCordoba



Geno is a beauty. "You answer this one", every question.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
Just when I thought I've read it all on here.

I've lost all faith in humanity.

- acdc1206


Yeah. I mean, I'm no fan of Crosby. I really am not. But any coach who would bench him in a playoff game? That would be like Glen Sather benching Gretzky after he went goalless in four consecutive games to start the 1988 playoffs.

Gretzky went on to win the Conn Smythe Trophy.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 12 @ 5:19 PM ET
Without a doubt to me that is what is frustrating about the team. They can look like they can toy with any team at will and then they look like they put on skates for the first time in their lives. They have been so incredibly inconsistent from shift to shift, period to period, game to game. Still they are just one win from their second straight ECF. If they could just maintain a consistent balance then they could be so good as we have seen at times. I have no idea which team will show up tomorrow night. They need to get on the board first so doubt doesn't creep in. The Rangers weren't just going to lay down and go away for them. Tomorrow's game could really have a lasting impact on the future of this franchise and the direction it is going in. It's going to be fascinating to watch.

The powerless play needs to wake up. No excuse with the players they have to be that anemic. I give credit to NY's PK but still to get a single PP goal is just awful.

- acdc1206


When they don't play a "playoff" style of hockey in the regular season, don't be surprised when they can't consistently play that style when it matters.

Fans reactions on all the talk shows and on this board was quite entertaining after games 2.3 and 4. Everybody was amazed at the tight checking, back checking, safe/smart decisions. And there in lies the problem... Being amazed that they learned how playoff hockey is played after being a fixture in the playoffs for 8 or 9 years.

By the way... Did anybody notice Doc Emeric mocking the Pens and all the pretty/fancy passes last night.....and how it provided zero results? When a professional announcer like him is mocking your teams "style" of play, it's a very revealing moment.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 12 @ 5:27 PM ET
I highly doubt you see significant changes after this season if we lose. Bylsma should be safe after this season and all he did and showing he could adjust in the playoffs. MAF will be safe unless Shero does something crazy, no UFA goalies are better than MAF. The pens dont buy out players so Scuds will be brought back. Nisk and Orpik might be let go and replaced by mid tier trade or/and kids from WBS. and Neal might go. Neal's shananigans arn't really tolerable when he is scoring...
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

May 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
I had a dream the other night. This is what it looked like.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
Changing the Penguins hockey culture and hiring Barry Trotz for coach
FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($4.400m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Matt Moulson ($6.500m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m) / Vladimir Tarasenko ($0.900m)
Beau Bennett ($0.900m) / Brandon Sutter ($4.750m) / Jussi Jokinen ($3.250m)
Brian Gibbons ($0.550m) / Marcel Goc ($2.500m) / Jayson Megna ($0.874m)
Joe Vitale ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Kevin Shattenkirk ($4.250m)
Matt Niskanen ($5.000m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Simon Despres ($1.250m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.000m)
Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($2.750m)
BUYOUTS
Craig Adams ($0.000m)
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

May 12 @ 6:13 PM ET
Why do i always feel like the pens let me down in these situations? Oh thats because they do.
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