There goes the shutout... nice job Marc
- Tomahawk

I'm just keeping score

ssb broke the ice on pg 9

well since we brought up VL why are we so quick to want to dump him? if a player has one bad season should we just get rid of him
- 2Real

Beause him and BSchenn both need to play 2C and he was very poor at ES for most of this season. It's not a vendetta against the guy. I was happy enough to sign him and try playing BSchenn at LW but it didn't work, the kid really wants to play center and performs better there. He did well this season playing with either Hartnell or Raffl as his LW, but not with Vinny.

you know, ive got a slightly worn rob scuderi to show you. ill actually give you a 4th round pick, AND rob scuderi, for your seventh rounder.
- stayinthefnnet

That's far too much for us to get. You must take "The Artist Formerly Known As Vinny", Nick Grossmann and Jay Rosehill

hey shawn thornton is available...
can you image thornton, rosehill and rinaldo as the 4th line next yr
lets roll

That's far too much for us to get. You must take "The Artist Formerly Known As Vinny", Nick Grossmann and Jay Rosehill
- Jsaquella

Hands off Grossmann...
Don't get me riled up in here!

hey shawn thornton is available...
can you image thornton, rosehill and rinaldo as the 4th line next yr
lets roll
- Marc D

Roll the boat right over the waterfall?

Hands off Grossmann...
Don't get me riled up in here!
- FlyersGrace

My hands are off, I just want to hand him a plane ticket.

Beause him and BSchenn both need to play 2C and he was very poor at ES for most of this season. It's not a vendetta against the guy. I was happy enough to sign him and try playing BSchenn at LW but it didn't work, the kid really wants to play center and performs better there. He did well this season playing with either Hartnell or Raffl as his LW, but not with Vinny.
- Feanor

Need to make changes now to win cup in the next year/2/3.
Support youth movement and building from within.
Dump salary now to have room later.
Addition by subtraction.
No fit for Vinny.
Vinny is old and declining.
Someone will take him.
Vinny can't skate anymore.

Did I miss anything? Ok. Next topic.

Edit: But, he scored 20 goals.

He can't let anything go. All of us have argued with him about VL all season. He dismisses everything we say and tells us VL is still a good player because he has a history of scoring goals.

It's over and done. Then, when one of us makes a comment about VL to another person, he will jump on it and write three paragraphs.

I stopped arguing with him about it because we just kept going in circles.
- PhillySportsGuy

Vinny is still a good player though. You can't expect other teams to want him if he wasn't.

Vinny is still a good player though. You can't expect other teams to want him if he wasn't.
- SuperSchennBros

i do not know why another team would want him. i dont think you can separate him the player from the deal that he is on. the deal is the poison pill.

That's far too much for us to get. You must take "The Artist Formerly Known As Vinny", Nick Grossmann and Jay Rosehill
- Jsaquella

what are their deals like?

what are their deals like?
- stayinthefnnet

They range from Jesus H Tap Dancing Christ to What the (frank) was he drinking to Hey, that's not too bad for a goon

Beause him and BSchenn both need to play 2C and he was very poor at ES for most of this season. It's not a vendetta against the guy. I was happy enough to sign him and try playing BSchenn at LW but it didn't work, the kid really wants to play center and performs better there. He did well this season playing with either Hartnell or Raffl as his LW, but not with Vinny.
- Feanor

simple move vinny to wing and he either learns it or can get shipped off to toronto
patrick marleau had no trouble switching from center to wing over and over vinny just needs to quit being a baby

i do not know why another team would want him. i dont think you can separate him the player from the deal that he is on. the deal is the poison pill.
- stayinthefnnet

you're telling me when the flyers signed vinny no one else wanted him?

They range from Jesus H Tap Dancing Christ to What the (frank) was he drinking to Hey, that's not too bad for a goon
- Jsaquella

haha.

i cant imagine rosehills is too long or severe. its gotta be under a mil

okay. so now, scuderi and a 5th for rosehill and a 7th.

i do not know why another team would want him. i dont think you can separate him the player from the deal that he is on. the deal is the poison pill.
- stayinthefnnet

Some other teams are not nearly as well off as the Flyers are in terms of centers, especially offensively gifted ones.

What are the chances that Ryan Johansen gets OS'ed this summer?

you're telling me when the flyers signed vinny no one else wanted him?
- 2Real

okay. well, 1. you cant use the mindset of "at that time". because things like the back injury and whatnot have crept into the picture. so that irreparably alters the current perspective.

and 2. while its not 100 percent conclusive, its at least a strong indicator that no other team out there was comfortable giving him the contract the flyers did. (at least another team that vinny wanted to go to, more than the flyers. which is relevant, given whatever NMC he has).

i could be totally wrong about this. but if there is a GM out there that will take that contract on without shipping an equally crummy one back in a pure hockey trade barring a crappy team wanting to get to the cap floor, he should have his head examined.

What are the chances that Ryan Johansen gets OS'ed this summer?
- Tomahawk

im not sure. i have no rational basis for my feelings, but for some reason OSing just feels dirty to me.

but ryan johansen is the real deal. for columbus to lose him would be devastating to them as a franchise, especially after all the steam they gained this year.

okay. well, 1. you cant use the mindset of "at that time". because things like the back injury and whatnot have crept into the picture. so that irreparably alters the current perspective.

and 2. while its not 100 percent conclusive, its at least a strong indicator that no other team out there was comfortable giving him the contract the flyers did. (at least another team that vinny wanted to go to, more than the flyers. which is relevant, given whatever NMC he has).

i could be totally wrong about this. but if there is a GM out there that will take that contract on without shipping an equally crummy one back in a pure hockey trade barring a crappy team wanting to get to the cap floor, he should have his head examined.
- stayinthefnnet

steven stamkos broke his leg horribly
i guess no one would ever want him on his team
vinny has a whole off season to heal up lets see how he does next season before he throw him in the fire

okay. well, 1. you cant use the mindset of "at that time". because things like the back injury and whatnot have crept into the picture. so that irreparably alters the current perspective.

and 2. while its not 100 percent conclusive, its at least a strong indicator that no other team out there was comfortable giving him the contract the flyers did. (at least another team that vinny wanted to go to, more than the flyers. which is relevant, given whatever NMC he has).

i could be totally wrong about this. but if there is a GM out there that will take that contract on without shipping an equally crummy one back in a pure hockey trade barring a crappy team wanting to get to the cap floor, he should have his head examined.
- stayinthefnnet

just kill any hope, that's it

steven stamkos broke his leg horribly
i guess no one would ever want him on his team
vinny has a whole off season to heal up lets see how he does next season before he throw him in the fire
- 2Real

stamkos is done, toast, finito

don't even compare vinnie with that over the hill piece of trash

steven stamkos broke his leg horribly
i guess no one would ever want him on his team
vinny has a whole off season to heal up lets see how he does next season before he throw him in the fire
- 2Real

sorry dude, i just see a stamkos/vinny analogy as far too strained to have a lot of merit.

for the record, i dont think he is total garbage. but that contract is.

stamkos is done, toast, finito

don't even compare vinnie with that over the hill piece of trash
- Marc D

at least you got 20 goals out of your troublesome contract. the pens have a nearly 4 million dollar a year paperweight.

at least you got 20 goals out of your troublesome contract. the pens have a nearly 4 million dollar a year paperweight.
- stayinthefnnet

I'm looking forward to the 2yr 11M deal for Dan Boyle though

moving on