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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
leino briere hartnell almost beat the blackhawks
remember it fondly
Duncan Keith saying "that fcking Leino guy again"


- Marc D


Leino had such a short stretch of success and the Flyers were the only ones who reaped the benefits of it
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
well, for some reason .5 is typically considered enough to round up, but okay. touche on that one


but daniel alfredsson at 5.5? one, i believe it was a smaller amount than that.

and 2. daniel alfredsson at 5.5 for one year, or vinny at 4.5 for 5 of them. you keep trivializing the length of the term in your evaluation. that is unfair.

- stayinthefnnet

you're assuming everyone uses the ceiling function
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...oor_and_ceiling_functions

vinny is 7 years younger than alfredsson so it's much better to give him a longer contract
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 19 @ 6:41 PM ET
Leino had such a short stretch of success and the Flyers were the only ones who reaped the benefits of it
- PhillySportsGuy


I wonder if the Flyers try a short term reclamation project with a guy like Leino or Heatley this summer.

They should be out there, and cheap
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 19 @ 6:44 PM ET
I wonder if the Flyers try a short term reclamation project with a guy like Leino or Heatley this summer.

They should be out there, and cheap

- Jsaquella


Out of the two, I would have interest in Heatley. Before the playoffs, I would have put Gaborik in this category, but I believe he has played his way to a multi-year deal. I would still kick the tires on Gaborik on term and price.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 6:46 PM ET
I wonder if the Flyers try a short term reclamation project with a guy like Leino or Heatley this summer.

They should be out there, and cheap

- Jsaquella


Only if it costs nothing to waive them. They've both been bad for a while now.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 6:47 PM ET
Out of the two, I would have interest in Heatley. Before the playoffs, I would have put Gaborik in this category, but I believe he has played his way to a multi-year deal. I would still kick the tires on Gaborik on term and price.
- ravishingone


I would too. Gaborik has looked great with kopitar. I bet the kings try to keep him. He will definitely get multiple years
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 19 @ 6:49 PM ET
Out of the two, I would have interest in Heatley. Before the playoffs, I would have put Gaborik in this category, but I believe he has played his way to a multi-year deal. I would still kick the tires on Gaborik on term and price.
- ravishingone


I think Gaborik was always gonna be expensive...I don't really see him as a reclamation project...but Heatley, his play has dropped significantly.

I don't see enough cap for Gaborik, Vanek or Cammalieri
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
Only if it costs nothing to waive them. They've both been bad for a while now.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm just saying I could see the Flyers doing a one year deal for low cash, I wouldn't touch either of them.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 19 @ 6:51 PM ET
I would too. Gaborik has looked great with kopitar. I bet the kings try to keep him. He will definitely get multiple years
- PhillySportsGuy


Gaborik is exactly the type of winger G could use. However, Gaborik can be frail. It will be really interesting to see what offers he gets in the open market.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
I think Gaborik was always gonna be expensive...I don't really see him as a reclamation project...but Heatley, his play has dropped significantly.

I don't see enough cap for Gaborik, Vanek or Cammalieri

- Jsaquella


Interesting, that you believe Cammy will get a multi -yr deal I'm assuming north of $5.5 million. Being a smaller forward like Briere, once he loses steps, his usefulness in a top 6 role will be in jeopardy. It will be interesting to see how many years teams are willing to gamble to acquire his services.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 19 @ 6:58 PM ET
I wonder if the Flyers try a short term reclamation project with a guy like Leino or Heatley this summer.

They should be out there, and cheap

- Jsaquella


I'd rather just let Raffl and Akeson run with the ball than expend resources on those two.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
Interesting, that you believe Cammy will get a multi -yr deal I'm assuming north of $5.5 million. Being a smaller forward like Briere, once he loses steps, his usefulness in a top 6 role will be in jeopardy. It will be interesting to see how many years teams are willing to gamble to acquire his services.
- ravishingone


I think he's looking at 4 years, at $5.5mm-$6mm...I can't see him taking a big haircut, and he's making $6mm now
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
I'd rather just let Raffl and Akeson run with the ball than expend resources on those two.
- Tomahawk

Agreed
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 19 @ 7:15 PM ET
No older players unless a 1 year deal for a Dman to bridge to the puppies.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 19 @ 7:30 PM ET
No older players unless a 1 year deal for a Dman to bridge to the puppies.
- jstross


Dan Boyle for $__ on a 1 year deal.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 7:30 PM ET
Gaborik is exactly the type of winger G could use. However, Gaborik can be frail. It will be really interesting to see what offers he gets in the open market.
- ravishingone


I'm guessing 3 years
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 7:34 PM ET
I think he's looking at 4 years, at $5.5mm-$6mm...I can't see him taking a big haircut, and he's making $6mm now
- Jsaquella


Well, he better be prepared to trim his hair. We don't want any Sal Fasanos on this team.
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 19 @ 7:43 PM ET
Call me crazy but I'm thinking Hexy tries to pull trade with l.a. He does know that roster quite well
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
Dan Boyle for $__ on a 1 year deal.
- wilsonecho91


I would rather take a run at Tom Gilbert. It's not his fault, Edmonton overpaid him, I would have taken the money and run also.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Call me crazy but I'm thinking Hexy tries to pull trade with l.a. He does know that roster quite well
- Sms401


I wouldn't be surprised by that either. I wouldn't be upset about it either. It's fairly common for GMs to look to acquire talent on their previous teams.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
I would rather take a run at Tom Gilbert. It's not his fault, Edmonton overpaid him, I would have taken the money and run also.
- ravishingone


To Edmonton though?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
Dan Boyle for $__ on a 1 year deal.
- wilsonecho91


Dan Boyle for $5,000,000 on a 1 year deal, but only if Kimmo retires.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
I would rather take a run at Tom Gilbert. It's not his fault, Edmonton overpaid him, I would have taken the money and run also.
- ravishingone



IMO, the Tom Gilbert ship has sailed. Would have been nice to lock him up last summer when his value was at an all-time low instead of getting Streit, but he's played himself back into the $4M range, and that's too much for him, IMO.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
Bill would the Flyers think about Guillaume GĂ©linas of Val-dOr. He's an OA but looks like he's progressed each year & might be worth a chance.

http://www.foreurs.qc.ca/roster/show/id/6916
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 19 @ 7:54 PM ET
To Edmonton though?
- PhillySportsGuy


For $24 million, heck yeah. I would feel all warm and fuzzy at night looking at my bank statement on-line.
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