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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
I know we'd all like it, but I just don't see wholesale roster changes.

Maybe if Botterill stays and he has had differences of opinions with Shero, it might be the only way. But if a new guy comes in from the outside, it's going to take some time to get to know what you have. And a few weeks before the draft and free agency is not enough time to evaluate every single player in the organization fully.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

May 20 @ 3:40 PM ET
*starts re-sign Sutter at all costs facebook page*
- canadianpenfan



#sutterwatch
#resignsutternow
#sutterbombsforever
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
I know we'd all like it, but I just don't see wholesale roster changes.

Maybe if Botterill stays and he has had differences of opinions with Shero, it might be the only way. But if a new guy comes in from the outside, it's going to take some time to get to know what you have. And a few weeks before the draft and free agency is not enough time to evaluate every single player in the organization fully.

- rival22

Get out of here with your rational thinking. This is hockeybuzz
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
Get out of here with your rational thinking. This is hockeybuzz
- dbell646



ok.... Neal, Scuderi and Tangradi for Tavares and Okposo!

Better?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
ok.... Neal, Scuderi and Tangradi for Tavares and Okposo!

Better?

- rival22

That might actually have some legs. Tavares would be a great 3rd line center here
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 20 @ 3:50 PM ET
Sutter= has an attitude of thinking that he is WAY better than he is and that hard work is not a factor in his game. This point was proven by how he played in the playoffs when he actually worked for his ice. I am not arguing he has offensive skills I am simply saying he does not work hard enough to be a positive factor for this team. Also he weighs 113 lbs and is softer than a baby's ass.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:51 PM ET
That might actually have some legs. Tavares would be a great 3rd line center here
- dbell646


He's coming off an injury, so we'll get him at a rock bottom price.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
Sutter= has an attitude of thinking that he is WAY better than he is and that hard work is not a factor in his game. This point was proven by how he played in the playoffs when he actually worked for his ice. I am not arguing he has offensive skills I am simply saying he does not work hard enough to be a positive factor for this team. Also he weighs 113 lbs and is softer than a baby's ass.
- nbartley9

Seems like you are using his improved play in the playoffs against him? Usually works the other way.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
*starts re-sign Sutter at all costs facebook page*
- canadianpenfan

that's actually pretty funny
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 20 @ 3:53 PM ET
ok.... Neal, Scuderi and Tangradi for Tavares and Okposo!

Better?

- rival22



We got Tangradi back? Well that solves all our problems...
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
We got Tangradi back? Well that solves all our problems...
- canadianpenfan


A lopsided trade proposal just doesn't feel right without Eric Tangradi involved in it.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 20 @ 4:00 PM ET
A lopsided trade proposal just doesn't feel right without Eric Tangradi involved in it.
- rival22



Just use Adams instead.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
Waive Adams sign Chris Thorburn. Pretty much solves everything right?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
2010 the Cap dictated
Trading - Byfuglien , Ladd , Versteeg , Sopel , Eager , Fraser
Not retaining via FA or arbitration - Burish , Niemi , Madden

And guys like Campbell , Brouwer and Kopecky had to go away after 2011 for cost reasons

Over next couple years youth was plugged into lineup. Some rose to occasion and became quality contributors for Hawks (Leddy , Kruger , Shaw , Saad , Smith , Crawford) while others didn't work out for Hawks for various reasons (Skille , Olsen , Hayes and Pirri) and team moved on from them. Jury is still out on Morin (Q doesn't seem to be a fan so he could be out door this summer)

During this time depth/role players acquired via trades (Stalberg/Oduya/Frolik) or FA (Emery/Rozsival/Brookbank) helped fill out roster

This past summer cap adjustments dictated a few moves (Frolik and Bolland) and again picks were acquired for long term replenishment of system

Read this and couldn't agree with it more. Pens fell in love with Gritty role players and Chicago flipped them for picks to keep the youth in the pipeline.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
2010 the Cap dictated
Trading - Byfuglien , Ladd , Versteeg , Sopel , Eager , Fraser
Not retaining via FA or arbitration - Burish , Niemi , Madden

And guys like Campbell , Brouwer and Kopecky had to go away after 2011 for cost reasons

Over next couple years youth was plugged into lineup. Some rose to occasion and became quality contributors for Hawks (Leddy , Kruger , Shaw , Saad , Smith , Crawford) while others didn't work out for Hawks for various reasons (Skille , Olsen , Hayes and Pirri) and team moved on from them. Jury is still out on Morin (Q doesn't seem to be a fan so he could be out door this summer)

During this time depth/role players acquired via trades (Stalberg/Oduya/Frolik) or FA (Emery/Rozsival/Brookbank) helped fill out roster

This past summer cap adjustments dictated a few moves (Frolik and Bolland) and again picks were acquired for long term replenishment of system

Read this and couldn't agree with it more. Pens fell in love with Gritty role players and Chicago flipped them for picks to keep the youth in the pipeline.

- dbell646


That's exactly why I'd like to see the hawks assistant GM come here.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
That's exactly why I'd like to see the hawks assistant GM come here.
- drummer829

Think about it the fans were probably pissed every time that occured but it is a huge reason why they are still built to win a cup
amanicom
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 09.30.2013

May 20 @ 4:23 PM ET
"Ryan Miller has been steady and his recent decline is certainly a product of being on an all-time worst Buffalo Sabres team this past season."

Except that his numbers with the all-time worst Buffalo sabres were better than his stats every year since 2010. As his time with the Blues shows, Miller wasn't being held back by Buffalo's defense.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
The Penguins should try to pry Wingels out of San Jose.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 20 @ 5:00 PM ET
Listening to MM, aparantly Stan Savron (sp) claimed there is a top player that would not mind being traded away from Pitt. I think those names would be 71, 87, 18, 58? If the rumor is true that's 71 and 18 the most likely candidates.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

May 20 @ 5:08 PM ET
Listening to MM, aparantly Stan Savron (sp) claimed there is a top player that would not mind being traded away from Pitt. I think those names would be 71, 87, 18, 58? If the rumor is true that's 71 and 18 the most likely candidates.
- sammy87



Neal.

he's made no secret according to some reports he would welcome a move
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 20 @ 5:17 PM ET
Neal.

he's made no secret according to some reports he would welcome a move

- akane13


Good get it done!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 20 @ 5:29 PM ET
Listening to MM, aparantly Stan Savron (sp) claimed there is a top player that would not mind being traded away from Pitt. I think those names would be 71, 87, 18, 58? If the rumor is true that's 71 and 18 the most likely candidates.
- sammy87


it would be impossible for me to entertain the notion of crosby wanting to be traded.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

May 20 @ 5:29 PM ET
Neal.

he's made no secret according to some reports he would welcome a move

- akane13

Would entertain Perron, Hendricks and a pick. Would then go and offer sheet Reilly Smith and obviously try to re acquire needed picks depending on the offer sheet.
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

May 20 @ 5:37 PM ET
The Penguins should try to pry Wingels out of San Jose.
- cap1681


The Penguins should try to pry Hertl out of San Jose.

Not that that will ever happen
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 20 @ 5:42 PM ET
MAF as good or better than any golaie available. is he rask, lunqvist, price, quick, etc. no. But what would you get equivilant to MAF in trade or FA that would save you much money. Hillier at 4 mil? rather have MAF at 5. miller at 6? rather have MAF at 5. Skill sets aside, MAF is a great lockerroom guy, generally a fan favorite (with the exception of this blogger who, I don't know, MAF must have run over his dog). Moving him would only be for the sake of moving him and barring some sort or miracle trade, the pens will get no better and probably worse in net.
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