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dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
I've played on a team with Bartley, he wants to win at all costs and will do whatever necessary to get that win. Not a bad thing to have, except when he starts bench clearing brawls
- gravyboy33

I like to win at all cost and even enjoy a fight here and there but I wouldn't want to end someones career under any circumstance. Having been on here I understand Bartley and agree with a lot of his thought process that however I can't get on board with
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
I like to win at all cost and even enjoy a fight here and there but I wouldn't want to end someones career under any circumstance. Having been on here I understand Bartley and agree with a lot of his thought process that however I can't get on board with
- dbell646



Bartley has a thought process?

Think-say-regret?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
Bartley has a thought process?

Think-say-regret?

- canadianpenfan

Ha Ha that's a process.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 21 @ 12:55 PM ET
Bartley has a thought process?

Think-say-regret?

- canadianpenfan

You give me too much credit
gravyboy33
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: parts unknown
Joined: 05.11.2008

May 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
Bartley has a thought process?

Think-say-regret?

- canadianpenfan

No regret for Bartley, he gave one of the nastiest ankle slashes I have ever seen which started the brawl and used his silver tongue to avoid suspension
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 12:58 PM ET
New GM is needed asap... need to waive adams and send scuds packing....need to fire DB.. lets go already!!
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 21 @ 12:59 PM ET
You give me too much credit
- nbartley9



nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
No regret for Bartley, he gave one of the nastiest ankle slashes I have ever seen which started the brawl and used his silver tongue to avoid suspension
- gravyboy33

The suspension hearing phone call was for the cross check, that was 100% deserved.

PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

May 21 @ 1:16 PM ET
I know under the new CBA there is a certain point at which a portion of the Cap hit stays with the NHL team. Ie, the Pens can't waive Scuderi and be rid of his cap hit. But not sure what that dollar amount is. However, I think you are correct that Adams's contract can be removed that way.
- s0rcerer1984

We cannot simply waive/demote Adams. He is on an over 35 contract, so I think if we waive/demote him we save $100K and he still counts $600K against the Cap, which would just be wasted money. I don't see anyone giving up anything in a trade for Adams, so i think we are just stuck with him next year. Maybe a trade where we retain as much of his salary as we can for a 7th would entice somebody, it would at least save us more than waiving/demoting him.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Interesting comments by Yost on Chris Stewart, who some posters have a love interest in here.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...le-Trade-Target/134/60174

nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
Interesting comments by Yost on Chris Stewart, who some posters have a love interest in here.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...le-Trade-Target/134/60174

- Oneonta Penguin

i stopped reading after all the good things he had to say about hemsky...
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 1:41 PM ET
hey gunner- http://triblive.com/sport...ne-penguins#axzz32GLcSdoQ

seems familiar

edit: so basically now the lines would look like this

bennett- sid- kane
kunitz/ufa- geno- ufa (doubtful on jussi being signed, megna played good there)
megna- sutter- dupes
harry z- payerl/ufa- sill/ufa

Letang- maatta
nisk- despres
combo of burtuzzo/harrington/pouliot/samuelsson/roupp/domoulin etc
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 21 @ 1:54 PM ET
i stopped reading after all the good things he had to say about hemsky...
- nh4442


I barfed when I read those.
duffman1368
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 21 @ 1:55 PM ET
Since there is nothing going on I decide to make a team to piss everyone off and pick apart.

C. Kunitz$3,850,000 E. Malkin$9,500,000 M. Gaborik 4,500,000

E. Kane$5,250,000 S. Crosby$8,700,000P. Dupuis $3,750,000

B. Bennett $900,000 M. Goc 1,500,000 J. McGinn 3,000,000

J. Megna 875,000 H. Zolnierczyk 650,000 B. Gibbons 750,000

C. Conner 650,000

Left Defense
Right Defense
K. Letang
$7,250,000
EL O. Maatta
$894,167
EL B. Dumoulin
$831,667
P. Martin
$5,000,000
R. Scuderi
$3,375,000
S. Despres

R. Bortuzzo
$600,000
Goaltenders
M. Fleury
$5,000,000
J. Zatkoff
$600,000
Buyouts
35+ C. Adams
$0


I traded neal for kane straight up and trade nisks rights to colorado for mcginns rights. and then drugged gaborik and made him sign for way under value so i could have him fit under the cap.

Do your worse.....
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 1:58 PM ET
Since there is nothing going on I decide to make a team to piss everyone off and pick apart.

C. Kunitz
$3,850,000
E. Malkin
$9,500,000
M. Gaborik

E. Kane
$5,250,000
S. Crosby
$8,700,000
P. Dupuis
$3,750,000
EL B. Bennett
$900,000
M. Goc

J. McGinn

J. Megna

H. Zolnierczyk

B. Gibbons

C. Conner

Left Defense
Right Defense
K. Letang
$7,250,000
EL O. Maatta
$894,167
EL B. Dumoulin
$831,667
P. Martin
$5,000,000
R. Scuderi
$3,375,000
S. Despres

R. Bortuzzo
$600,000
Goaltenders
M. Fleury
$5,000,000
J. Zatkoff
$600,000
Buyouts
35+ C. Adams
$0
Buried Contracts
Retained SPCs
Team has used 0 percent of upper limit in retained salary. Maximum is 15 percent.
Text Roster Publish Roster

- duffman1368

No to bolded...

cant buy out adams bc he signed after CBA same as scuds...

you have to trade scuds and even martin to let some of the young guys have a slot

im 50-50 on retaining flower

gaborik is interesting but i doubt he comes here.. would need to get wings via trade
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 1:59 PM ET
I barfed when I read those.
- Oneonta Penguin

Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 21 @ 2:00 PM ET
No to bolded...

cant buy out adams bc he signed after CBA same as scuds...

you have to trade scuds and even martin to let some of the young guys have a slot

im 50-50 on retaining flower

gaborik is interesting but i doubt he comes here.. would need to get wings via trade

- nh4442


Stay away from Gaborik too. He is an enigma. He shows when he wants and he is fragile too boot.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
Since there is nothing going on I decide to make a team to piss everyone off and pick apart.

C. Kunitz$3,850,000 E. Malkin$9,500,000 M. Gaborik 4,500,000

E. Kane$5,250,000 S. Crosby$8,700,000P. Dupuis $3,750,000

B. Bennett $900,000 M. Goc 1,500,000 J. McGinn 3,000,000

J. Megna 875,000 H. Zolnierczyk 650,000 B. Gibbons 750,000

C. Conner 650,000

Left Defense
Right Defense
K. Letang
$7,250,000
EL O. Maatta
$894,167
EL B. Dumoulin
$831,667
P. Martin
$5,000,000
R. Scuderi
$3,375,000
S. Despres

R. Bortuzzo
$600,000
Goaltenders
M. Fleury
$5,000,000
J. Zatkoff
$600,000
Buyouts
35+ C. Adams
$0


I traded neal for kane straight up and trade nisks rights to colorado for mcginns rights. and then drugged gaborik and made him sign for way under value so i could have him fit under the cap.

Do your worse.....

- duffman1368

I just want to hank you for not putting Sutter on your team.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
Stay away from Gaborik too. He is an enigma. He shows when he wants and he is fragile too boot.
- Oneonta Penguin

gun to my your head gaborik or hemsky!!!!!!!
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
I wish something happens soon...
- nh4442


Isn't that your usual state of mind with this team?
duffman1368
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2009

May 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
No to bolded...

cant buy out adams bc he signed after CBA same as scuds...

you have to trade scuds and even martin to let some of the young guys have a slot

im 50-50 on retaining flower

gaborik is interesting but i doubt he comes here.. would need to get wings via trade

- nh4442



I cant see a realistic way to get sutter to sign here for anything that makes cap sense so who are your guys to fill center and bottom 6 out? Also if you are trading martin and playing the young guys you may as well get of fluery and bring in someone who isnt going to be a contender anyways and wait for jarry
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 2:06 PM ET
Isn't that your usual state of mind with this team?
- rival22

only in the offseason... and trade deadline... oh and at the draft....


mostly I just want the team I root for and who I pay $$$ to see as a STH to not only win games but not lose to crappy teams, and look like poop in playoffs every year...

isnt our duty as fans to want more, i know some call that being spoiled but i call it caring
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
I cant see a realistic way to get sutter to sign here for anything that makes cap sense so who are your guys to fill center and bottom 6 out? Also if you are trading martin and playing the young guys you may as well get of fluery and bring in someone who isnt going to be a contender anyways and wait for jarry
- duffman1368

if sj goes after miller, and pitt goes after niemi, then flower can get traded and start new...

as for sutter, I would like to resign him bc like you said i dont think they can, might as well trade his rights for a 2nd and hope they can fill it from with in the org... Pitt has a problem of drafting Centers and making them play wing... so they actually have a ton of centers in wbs... just have to give someone a chance

or trade scuds for umberger and let RJ be 3rd line center
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
gun to my your head gaborik or hemsky!!!!!!!
- nh4442


Pull the trigger ... I want neither
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
Pull the trigger ... I want neither
- Oneonta Penguin

oh ya i forgot about you
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