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LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
I mean you have to (give him a chance),” said Red Wings GM Ken Holland. “Yeah, we’re going to give him a real chance in camp. I think we’d be pretty stupid if we just gave him two exhibition games and then sent him to Grand Rapids


http://www.thehockeynews....n-to-the-rule-in-detroit/

- burn

I think Holland is mistaken, he played only two games in 2010-11, that does not qualify as a full season, he has only 3 full seasons in junior and under the dec 31st deadline of being 20.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
He would of had to be born in 93'

you have to be 20 the year prior.. so next season he can play in the AHL

EDIT: by next i mean 2015-2016

- Dozzer



That is what I originally said, but Ken Holland contradicting this.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

May 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
Ken Holland said on TV last night that he's done in the Q. He specifically said he'll be given chance at top 6 with the wings, and if he can't win that spot he'll go to the A.
- burn



Was Ken havin a nip of the good stuff?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
You sure?? He's 20 right now and Holland was talking about how Mantha (20 in sept) is top6 with the wings of going to Grand rapids. His days in the Q are done.
- burn

Mantha has played 4 years of major junior...NOW!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
From the CBA 2012

Players drafted and playing for CHL teams are ineligible to play in the professional minor leagues (AHL, ECHL) until they are 20 years old (by December 31st of that year) or have completed four years in major juniors.

- LeafMan



Both Bibeau and Mantha turn/are 20 before the season starts. That's how I read it. If you are 20 before the year starts you're eligible.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
I believe you have to be on the roster or play for 25 games to be consider a full season.
- LeafMan


that makes sense.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
Mantha has played 4 years of major junior...NOW!
- AdamFrench



nope. 11-12, 12-13, 13-14. Same as Bibeau.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
Both Bibeau and Mantha turn/are 20 before the season starts. That's how I read it. If you are 20 before the year starts you're eligible.
- burn


no burn, you have to be 20 before Jan 1st of that year.

LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
Both Bibeau and Mantha turn/are 20 before the season starts. That's how I read it. If you are 20 before the year starts you're eligible.
- burn

It is the year they are playing not before the next.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
I think this all has to do with race.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
That is what I originally said, but Ken Holland contradicting this.
- burn


Holland is wrong

i cant find a good breakdown that isnt a competing blog site sadly
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

May 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
no burn, you have to be 20 before Jan 1st of that year.
- Dozzer


Anthony Mantha, September 16, 1994 (age 19 years)

You do th math.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
no burn, you have to be 20 before Jan 1st of that year.
- Dozzer



Quote from Lou from CBA say "have to be 20 that year".

Both Mantha and Bibeau are 20 before Dec31 of THAT year.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

May 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
He was passed over for one year in the QMJHL draft, what if that keeps happening?

Is there an absolute maximum age for junior eligibility?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

May 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
I think this all has to do with race.
- AdamFrench



Foot, bike or car.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
It is the year they are playing not before the next.
- LeafMan



Right.... THIS year (2014-2015) Bibeau is 20.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

May 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
fine wel give detroit biggs since they wanted him and wel take mantha

the sacrafices we take..
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
Looks like it's a good old fashioned Nino Niederreiter showdown!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
Anthony Mantha, September 16, 1994 (age 19 years)

You do th math.

- bixll


right, so he cannot play in the AHL until 2015

he has to be 20 the year prior
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
Holland is wrong

i cant find a good breakdown that isnt a competing blog site sadly

- Dozzer



Really??
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
He was passed over for one year in the QMJHL draft, what if that keeps happening?

Is there an absolute maximum age for junior eligibility?

- The Shrike

21, he can play in the Q one more season.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

May 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
right, so he cannot play in the AHL until 2015

he has to be 20 the year prior

- Dozzer



He will be 20 on the 16th of Sept.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Right.... THIS year (2014-2015) Bibeau is 20.
- burn

No the 2013-14 season is what it is going by, this season they are currently playing.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Quote from Lou from CBA say "have to be 20 that year".

Both Mantha and Bibeau are 20 before Dec31 of THAT year.

- burn


no they arent.

they would of had to been 20 by the end of 2013

the date is Dec 31.. if you arent 20 by Jan 1 of the year the season STARTS, you are not eligible.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Who cares?
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