Boyle is not the type of dman we need.
We need a strong defensive dman!
- Fakepartofme

He might not be the best guy, but we do need a solid vet who can help lead and provide some calm. Just can't think of many other ufa men we should pursue. Would be pricey though no doubt.

Boyle is not the type of dman we need.
We need a strong defensive dman!
- Fakepartofme

Kevin Bieska - expensive option
Matt Greene - cheaper option

Both RD too.

With Rielly/Gardiner, why do we need Boyle? He's not that good defensively.
- RogerRoeper

Better than Franson defensively?

He plays a smart and good puck moving game, still need those kind of vets. Key for me is his experience.

He might not be the best guy, but we do need a solid vet who can help lead and provide some calm. Just can't think of many other ufa men we should pursue. Would be pricey though no doubt.
- systemtool

I agree, we do need a vet back there.

I agree, we do need a vet back there.
- Fakepartofme

I just don't know who else is there to be had. Maybe a trade none of us see coming?

I guess the concern could be were putting too much emphasis on getting a guy or two to fix our D when it probably needs to be a team wide effort and fix.

Kevin Bieska - expensive option
Matt Greene - cheaper option

Both RD too.
- The Shrike

Ill take Bieska over Boyle...Canucks likely selling off assets this year.

Ill take Bieska over Boyle...Canucks likely selling off assets this year.
- Colin Dambrauskas

The logical choice, but depends on the assets needed to give up for him. With Boyle its just a signing. Canucks might and likely would want a Kadri, Gardiner, 1st rounder as part of a deal.

Anyone planning on travelling to Columbus to get drunk and ornery at a Blue Jackets game?

You may want to rethink your plans.

http://www.dispatch.com/c...l-may-have-big-reach.html

'merica.
- Atomic Wedgie

I just read a story about the NRA and gun loving yocals harsh opposition to 'smart guns'.... guns that recognize their owner and only work for them.

threat to their gun rights apparently.

morons breeding morons.

I just read a story about the NRA and gun loving yocals harsh opposition to 'smart guns'.... guns that recognize their owner and only work for them.

threat to their gun rights apparently.

morons breeding morons.
- robin_steele264

that's (frank)ing hilarious.....infringing on their 2nd amendment.

The logical choice, but depends on the assets needed to give up for him. With Boyle its just a signing. Canucks might and likely would want a Kadri, Gardiner, 1st rounder as part of a deal.
- systemtool

Acquire both then, you guys tend to forget we have 23.3M of capspace this summer, majority of the roster wont be resigned. And Boyle would likely want a 2 year deal probably for 7-8M, 3.5-4M per

I think Boyle would be great for Gardiner and Rielly, replaces Franson.

Phaneuf-Rielly
Boyle-Gardiner
Gunnarson-Blank.

that's (frank)ing hilarious.....infringing on their 2nd amendment.
- burn

Its a new level of idiocy I didn't think was possible

Kevin Bieska - expensive option
Matt Greene - cheaper option

Both RD too.
- The Shrike

Who would you take, doesn't really matter about shooting left and right at this point, who would you take Matt Greene or Orpiks if you had option?

Better than Franson defensively?

He plays a smart and good puck moving game, still need those kind of vets. Key for me is his experience.
- systemtool

I think Boyle is the perfect veteran to acquire but he should not be the only one they sign/trade for. After Boyle we still need a top guy for Phaneuf, most likely through trade would be the only way.

- AdamFrench

Sexy, Ice girls, Your new skates.

Acquire both then, you guys tend to forget we have 23.3M of capspace this summer, majority of the roster wont be resigned. And Boyle would likely want a 2 year deal probably for 7-8M, 3.5-4M per
- DougGilmour_93

I suppose I wasn't clear in my comment. I would love Bieksa, but not interested in selling our youth/1st rounders to get him. If we struggle next season so be it, but the leafs need to stay the course and learn to draft, develop, be patient and give youth the chance to and grow.

If the day ever comes when we're the Bruins, Pens or an annual playoff team then we should be buyers and trade some youth or picks.

I suppose I wasn't clear in my comment. I would love Bieksa, but not interested in selling our youth/1st rounders to get him. If we struggle next season so be it, but the leafs need to stay the course and learn to draft, develop, be patient and give youth the chance to and grow.

If the day ever comes when we're the Bruins, Pens or an annual playoff team then we should be buyers and trade some youth or picks.
- systemtool

All depends the price, for guys like Bieksa or Giordano. If its not worth it, move on from that. If we cannot afford those guys or it doesn't make sense the price, no point in giving up significant assets that will burn us down the road for a short term gain.

Unless we go the Free Agency route and sign guys like: Boyle, Orpiks, Matt Greene, Robidas, Willie Mitchell

Who would you take, doesn't really matter about shooting left and right at this point, who would you take Matt Greene or Orpiks if you had option?
- DougGilmour_93

Greene probably cheaper a bit. He's younger.

Both are pretty banged up.

People keep bringing up orpik but I don't think that's the answer.

IMO leafs need a stop gap on D - 1 guy for like 2 years who brings vet experience, some toughness and can help out the young guys.

Finn
Granberg
Percy
MacWilliam

there are others who could make the jump too.

Nilsson had a good season too.

would be best not to move ANY assets and get a guy off the FA for a stop gap.

All depends the price, for guys like Bieksa or Giordano. If its not worth it, move on from that. If we cannot afford those guys or it doesn't make sense the price, no point in giving up significant assets that will burn us down the road for a short term gain.

Unless we go the Free Agency route and sign guys like: Boyle, Orpiks, Matt Greene, Robidas, Willie Mitchell
- DougGilmour_93

Tough decisions ahead. I'm not too optimistic for next year..

Thank goodness we have a good draft pick at least.

Greene probably cheaper a bit. He's younger.

Both are pretty banged up.

People keep bringing up orpik but I don't think that's the answer.
- burn

Matt Greene will probably get 3.5M-4, Orpiks 4.5M-5

Tough decisions ahead. I'm not too optimistic for next year..
- systemtool

But Boyle makes perfect sense to mentor rielly and gards for sure

Matt Greene will probably get 3.5M-4, Orpiks 4.5M-5
- DougGilmour_93

Matt Greene will be lucky to get 1 mil. He's a healthy scratch and can't skate. He plays 10 minutes a night, 2 of those on the PK because he doesn't have to move.

But Boyle makes perfect sense to mentor rielly and gards for sure
- DougGilmour_93

And he eats minutes up.

Matt Greene will be lucky to get 1 mil. He's a healthy scratch and can't skate. He plays 10 minutes a night, 2 of those on the PK because he doesn't have to move.
- AdamFrench

Yeah he is really slow, and did get benched by LA.... I for one wouldn't sign him.... Gleason >