I think Hexy will focus on drafting goalie and Dmen and the team should be solid in 5 years

I just don't see it, I don't see any team that is willing to trade a #1 dman in today's NHL.

Doughty, Subban, Suter, Weber, Karlsson, Chara, OEL, Pietrangelo, Keith; do you really see any of these guys getting traded?
- BiggE

Maybe not that type #1 but maybe just a notch below. Myers, shattenkirk,brodin type. Upgrade with huge potential.

Maybe not that type #1 but maybe just a notch below. Myers, shattenkirk,brodin type. Upgrade with huge potential.
- Sms401

Not worth moving Coburn for one of those guys IMO

Maybe not that type #1 but maybe just a notch below. Myers, shattenkirk,brodin type. Upgrade with huge potential.
- Sms401

Would love that, but, I don't see the Blues biting on it.

Agreed, I'm just not willing to trade Coburn for a guy like Myers or someone else of that ilk.
- BiggE

Yes, Coburn has to be kept to be apart of the D simply because we won't have a chance at a number 1. They are going to have to build an all round solid core and they just need another piece IMO.
They have the prospects coming but need something for now to be stable

[quote=3flyerkids]

Myers cap hit is $5.5 million for the next 5 years. That's a big leap of faith, that could be a huge anchor on the cap if his consistency doesn't improve. Its a tough call because he is 24 and should be entering his prime. Personally, I think Buffalo would move Erhoff mainly because he is older and would still bring a good return.

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CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jussi Jokinen ($3.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m)
Dennis Rasmussen ($0.800m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Jason Akeson ($0.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Matt Niskanen ($6.000m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Oliver Lauridsen ($0.600m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Andrew Alberts ($0.625m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.250m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,813,333; BONUSES: $212,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,286,667

This is based on them trading VL and Grossmann
I thought that Alberts would be a cheap replacement for Gill as a 7th dman, though I would assume that if someone has a longterm injury they would either bring up Alt, Ghost or Hagg or make a deal. I know I'm rolling the dice with Lauridsen as the 6th dman, but in this lineup, he would only be getting a protected 10-12 minutes a game and maybe some fill in time on the PK.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

Doesn't work. Pronger can't go on LTIR until after the season starts and we have to be cap compliant before the season starts. Your D lines also don't work. Berube likes a defensive minded dman with an offensive minded one

I would like to see them get Schenn signed at around 2.5 on a bridge deal but after seeing what Tampa signed Johnson ( a player who has one year under his belt) for yesterday Schenn don't sign for less than 3 mill

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CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jussi Jokinen ($3.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m)
Dennis Rasmussen ($0.800m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Jason Akeson ($0.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Matt Niskanen ($6.000m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Oliver Lauridsen ($0.600m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Andrew Alberts ($0.625m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.250m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,813,333; BONUSES: $212,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,286,667

This is based on them trading VL and Grossmann
I thought that Alberts would be a cheap replacement for Gill as a 7th dman, though I would assume that if someone has a longterm injury they would either bring up Alt, Ghost or Hagg or make a deal. I know I'm rolling the dice with Lauridsen as the 6th dman, but in this lineup, he would only be getting a protected 10-12 minutes a game and maybe some fill in time on the PK.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

Niskanen 6mill What you smokin' over there buds?

Myers cap hit is $5.5 million for the next 5 years. That's a big leap of faith, that could be a huge anchor on the cap if his consistency doesn't improve. Its a tough call because he is 24 and should be entering his prime. Personally, I think Buffalo would move Erhoff mainly because he is older and would still bring a good return.
- ravishingone

I'd much rather have Myers at 5 mil than Amac, street coburn at 5 mil. Myers has at least the potential of #1 or #1a where as the others don't. At 5 mil nowadays that's a steal. In 2 years we could have Myers/Amac. Ghost/ morin street/schenn. Now that I can rally behind.

Myers cap hit is $5.5 million for the next 5 years. That's a big leap of faith, that could be a huge anchor on the cap if his consistency doesn't improve. Its a tough call because he is 24 and should be entering his prime. Personally, I think Buffalo would move Erhoff mainly because he is older and would still bring a good return.
- ravishingone

Erhoff would get a good return I just hope it is not from us. He is 6 years older than Myers with longer contract terms and a 4 million cap hit. Buffalo GM is willing to listen to anything. I could see Homer going after Erhoff...but not Hextall

It's a great breakdown of how important Couturier is to the team, but he wanted security and signed his contract on the back of a rough 12-13 season where he only scored 15 points in 46 games and Holmgren got him at a bargain rate. If he had waited till now he would have been able to demand significantly more money.
- Feanor

I don't know who Coots' agent is, but he really screwed his client there... the player and agent must not have had much confidence in his ability to have a better 13-14 than 12-13 under the current usage patterns.

The Schenn camp's thought process is much more standard... they believed in his ability to hit certain benchmarks in his 3rd-season and they were rewarded... whether we like it or not, a concrete 20-goals puts him in another pay-grade than, say, if he had re-upped as a guy with only 20-goal potential.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Schenn camps insists on a 1-year show-me deal if Hexy isn't willing to budge on a more lucrative bridge deal. The kid seems on the verge of a big season.

I'd much rather have Myers at 5 mil than Amac, street coburn at 5 mil. Myers has at least the potential of #1 or #1a where as the others don't. At 5 mil nowadays that's a steal. In 2 years we could have Myers/Amac. Ghost/ morin street/schenn. Now that I can rally behind.
- Sms401

I would do B Schenn and Grossman for Myers in a heartbeat. Buffalo needs offense

As far as the dman trading talk...I would definitely inquire about Yandle. Phx has plenty of young talent on their blueline and there were rumors last years of Yandle being traded for offensive help. Not sure if B schenn for Yandle straight gets it done or not. Im guessing probably a pick needs to go to Phx as well. Yandle may not be the big booming shot dman that weber is but he can skate like the wind and is a great passer. and we all know the Flyers most pressing need is a dman who can move the puck! thoughts?

[quote=3flyerkids]
I Can see buf trading Myers for a schenn package for sure. They have ehroff/risto/zadorov. They could take ekblad this year or bennet/Reinhardt. And the fkers have 3 first rounders next year and probably best shot at mcdavid or eichel at worst. That team is gonna be scary in 3 to 4 years

As far as the dman trading talk...I would definitely inquire about Yandle. Phx has plenty of young talent on their blueline and there were rumors last years of Yandle being traded for offensive help. Not sure if B schenn for Yandle straight gets it done or not. Im guessing probably a pick needs to go to Phx as well. Yandle may not be the big booming shot dman that weber is but he can skate like the wind and is a great passer. and we all know the Flyers most pressing need is a dman who can move the puck! thoughts?
- mng815

Man, you guys really don't take Hexy at his word... he's said he doesn't plan on doing anything drastic this offseason, and he wants to promote from within, and he thinks it's important to hang on to picks.

Did we forget that Paul Holmgren's busy managing the peanut vendors now, and his twitchy hand is no longer on the tiller?

As far as the dman trading talk...I would definitely inquire about Yandle. Phx has plenty of young talent on their blueline and there were rumors last years of Yandle being traded for offensive help. Not sure if B schenn for Yandle straight gets it done or not. Im guessing probably a pick needs to go to Phx as well. Yandle may not be the big booming shot dman that weber is but he can skate like the wind and is a great passer. and we all know the Flyers most pressing need is a dman who can move the puck! thoughts?
- mng815

Too expensive to acquire, it could weaken another position, as the Yotes would probably want a sizeable package.

No interest in trading for Yandle. We already have Streit who only cost money, not assets.

As far as the dman trading talk...I would definitely inquire about Yandle. Phx has plenty of young talent on their blueline and there were rumors last years of Yandle being traded for offensive help. Not sure if B schenn for Yandle straight gets it done or not. Im guessing probably a pick needs to go to Phx as well. Yandle may not be the big booming shot dman that weber is but he can skate like the wind and is a great passer. and we all know the Flyers most pressing need is a dman who can move the puck! thoughts?
- mng815

I like yandle but I wouldn't give up more than schenn for him. I think he's hit his ceiling. He is what he is.

Man, you guys really don't take Hexy at his word... he's said he doesn't plan on doing anything drastic this offseason, and he wants to promote from within, and he thinks it's important to hang on to picks.

Did we forget that Paul Holmgren's busy managing the peanut vendors now, and his twitchy hand is no longer on the tiller?
- Tomahawk

I never take any GM at his word in any sport. I think Hexy will hang onto picks and really does want to promote from within, but he has to make a change or two going into next year. They go into next season with same team

Man, you guys really don't take Hexy at his word... he's said he doesn't plan on doing anything drastic this offseason, and he wants to promote from within, and he thinks it's important to hang on to picks.

Did we forget that Paul Holmgren's busy managing the peanut vendors now, and his twitchy hand is no longer on the tiller?
- Tomahawk

He never said he wouldn't make deals, he just said he isn't giving up a Roster player + prospect + pick to fill one hole. I personally don't think he does much. He either trades Hartnell, Vinny or Grossman but that is it. He doesn't have a lot of leg room to work with since Pronger's contract is weighing us down every offseason.

Man, you guys really don't take Hexy at his word... he's said he doesn't plan on doing anything drastic this offseason, and he wants to promote from within, and he thinks it's important to hang on to picks.

Did we forget that Paul Holmgren's busy managing the peanut vendors now, and his twitchy hand is no longer on the tiller?
- Tomahawk

I agree with you. Pretty apparent from Hexy's last interview, he views B. Schenn as part of the core. I don't believe he is providing a smokescreen to trade him. Also, Hexy has stated he believes in having strength at center. I love Coots and would like him to get a little more offensive zone starts. However, asking Laughton to assume anything but a 4th line center role in his rookie season is asking a lot from him. It really makes little sense for Hexy to trade B. Schenn.

Man, you guys really don't take Hexy at his word... he's said he doesn't plan on doing anything drastic this offseason, and he wants to promote from within, and he thinks it's important to hang on to picks.

Did we forget that Paul Holmgren's busy managing the peanut vendors now, and his twitchy hand is no longer on the tiller?
- Tomahawk

I like hexy but he's full of sh$t. Theirs just no way in hell with him being a former goalie knowing how important his dman are that he could watch this defense and not try to make a major move to improve it. Especially coming from l.a. And watching their d. He's not married to any of our forwards. Be didn't draft any of them. I don't think he'd care about trading any of our forwards except g to land his #1 dman. Especially with ghost/morin/hagg coming in the very near future.

I never take any GM at his word in any sport. I think Hexy will hang onto picks and really does want to promote from within, but he has to make a change or two going into next year. They go into next season with same team
- 3flyerkids

This is going to be the offseason where he's mainly preoccupied with trimming the fat off the roster and correcting some of the mistakes from his predecessor.

We already know that Homer's team was built on a shaky foundation... you really expect Hexy to just continue working with Homer's blueprint?

I expect he'll work like hell to re-balance the cap structure of the team, and that might just entail moving high-priced dmen out, instead of bringing more in.

This is going to be the offseason where he's mainly preoccupied with trimming the fat off the roster and correcting some of the mistakes from his predecessor.

We already know that Homer's team was built on a shaky foundation... you really expect Hexy to just continue working with Homer's blueprint?

I expect he'll work like hell to re-balance the cap structure of the team, and that might just entail moving high-priced dmen out, instead of bringing more in.
- Tomahawk

There are really not many mistakes on the roster. Our D is full of Top 4 guys since a top 2 guy is almost impossible to get outside of developing, which we have some potential candidates. Vinny was a mistake sure, Homer thought he could easily adjust to Wing and he wasn't able too and we are weak at LW position. Outside of that what else is there to fix?

Homer's D is not ideal but it works. You have 6 top 4 guys who share the load since you don't have the kind of pairing that can shoulder the load.