This is going to be the offseason where he's mainly preoccupied with trimming the fat off the roster and correcting some of the mistakes from his predecessor.

We already know that Homer's team was built on a shaky foundation... you really expect Hexy to just continue working with Homer's blueprint?

I expect he'll work like hell to re-balance the cap structure of the team, and that might just entail moving high-priced dmen out, instead of bringing more in.
- Tomahawk

Either one of Grossmann or LSchenn is gonna be gone, I think.

Sign and trade is my guess. If I"m Hexy I QUICKLY ask the agent, what's the no haggle price and if it's too high, I trade his rights if possible

This is going to be the offseason where he's mainly preoccupied with trimming the fat off the roster and correcting some of the mistakes from his predecessor.

We already know that Homer's team was built on a shaky foundation... you really expect Hexy to just continue working with Homer's blueprint?

I expect he'll work like hell to re-balance the cap structure of the team, and that might just entail moving high-priced dmen out, instead of bringing more in.
- Tomahawk

If we could move say Hartnell & grossman and bring in niskanen that would be a win/win. I just don't get the whole create a hole to fill a hole idea. I mean this team really isn't that good. It's an ok team but nowhere near a cup team. I'd gladly create a hole if it fills a bigger and more important hole. Not that you specifically were making that point

I don't know who Coots' agent is, but he really screwed his client there... the player and agent must not have had much confidence in his ability to have a better 13-14 than 12-13 under the current usage patterns.

The Schenn camp's thought process is much more standard... they believed in his ability to hit certain benchmarks in his 3rd-season and they were rewarded... whether we like it or not, a concrete 20-goals puts him in another pay-grade than, say, if he had re-upped as a guy with only 20-goal potential.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Schenn camps insists on a 1-year show-me deal if Hexy isn't willing to budge on a more lucrative bridge deal. The kid seems on the verge of a big season.
- Tomahawk

Well, the other way to look at the Couturier deal is that Holmgren held the line for once.

If I were the Flyers, I wouldn't be beholden to that bullpoop contract BSchenn got out LA, either.

I would love to see BSchenn get a 1 or 2 year "show-me" deal, because really, that's all he merits. I don't want to trade him, but I'm not just gifting 3mill/year, either.

This is going to be the offseason where he's mainly preoccupied with trimming the fat off the roster and correcting some of the mistakes from his predecessor.

We already know that Homer's team was built on a shaky foundation... you really expect Hexy to just continue working with Homer's blueprint?

I expect he'll work like hell to re-balance the cap structure of the team, and that might just entail moving high-priced dmen out, instead of bringing more in.
- Tomahawk

I think you are right, he will have to trim some fat off the roster as Homer did leave him with some bad deals, however he did leave him with some quality depth. I just can't see Hexy not trying to upgrade team for this upcoming season.

Well, the other way to look at the Couturier deal is that Holmgren held the line for once.

If I were the Flyers, I wouldn't be beholden to that bullpoop contract BSchenn got out LA, either.

I would love to see BSchenn get a 1 or 2 year "show-me" deal, because really, that's all he merits. I don't want to trade him, but I'm not just gifting 3mill/year, either.
- johndewar

Beautifully said. Could not agree more.

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I dont see the point in moving BSchenn. Move Vinny. Sign BSchenn. Bring Read up to the 2nd line LW spot. Call it a day.

And good god, moving Coburn for Tyler Myers alone would be close to a lateral move. People just want to throw in BSchenn as well?

Well, the other way to look at the Couturier deal is that Holmgren held the line for once.

If I were the Flyers, I wouldn't be beholden to that bullpoop contract BSchenn got out LA, either.

I would love to see BSchenn get a 1 or 2 year "show-me" deal, because really, that's all he merits. I don't want to trade him, but I'm not just gifting 3mill/year, either.
- johndewar

Agreed 100%. That's how you f your cap real quick. I'd tell him you want more than coots sucks to be you because you font deserve it and I'd package his a$$ away. Him with the 27th pick and coburn or Hartnell could bring a very nice return for sure.

I think you are right, he will have to trim some fat off the roster as Homer did leave him with some bad deals, however he did leave him with some quality depth. I just can't see Hexy not trying to upgrade team for this upcoming season.
- 3flyerkids

For what purpose, though?

Does anybody here reasonably feel that they're just 1-2 players away from being level w/ Chicago, LA or Boston? I don't.

Wait for the kids, make a Coburn/Zhitnik deal if it presents itself, scoop up some value UFA's later in the summer. Blockbuster trades and July 1 aren't the only way to improve a team.

Well, the other way to look at the Couturier deal is that Holmgren held the line for once.
- johndewar

I agree that Homer must have been standing firm -- but why didn't Coots' agent just advise him to wait another 6-9 months to get something done? It's just really odd strategically.

Just got the email for my draft tickets. Have to login at 1pm on Wednesday. Because that is convenient.

I dont see the point in moving BSchenn. Move Vinny. Sign BSchenn. Bring Read up to the 2nd line LW spot. Call it a day.

And good god, moving Coburn for Tyler Myers alone would be close to a lateral move. People just want to throw in BSchenn as well?
- hereticpride

The Calder trophy winning coburn? Or Myers? Take into account how good Myers looked when buf had a good year. For last few seasons buf has really sucked and he wasn't coached right. Put him in Philly with #1 pp and Amac and he'd tear it up. Coburn on the other hand doesn't have that potential. He's a 3 at utmost best but best suited as a 4. I'm sorry but at 4.5 mil that's not worth it. He's ok to have but many other d much more preferred

For what purpose, though?

Does anybody here reasonably feel that they're just 1-2 players away from being level w/ Chicago, LA or Boston? I don't.

Wait for the kids, make a Coburn/Zhitnik deal if it presents itself, scoop up some value UFA's later in the summer. Blockbuster trades and July 1 aren't the only way to improve a team.
- Tomahawk

I think they are close. We all know the story of the slow start last year etc... They were a better team than record showed. Very we'll could have beaten NYR.
I don't want to see any picks or prospects traded either for aging vets. One solid Dman and maybe a speedy FA winger would make a huge difference. Hey we all know that our goalie can perform in the playoffs. Let's improve players in front of him

Just got the email for my draft tickets. Have to login at 1pm on Wednesday. Because that is convenient.

I dont see the point in moving BSchenn. Move Vinny. Sign BSchenn. Bring Read up to the 2nd line LW spot. Call it a day.

And good god, moving Coburn for Tyler Myers alone would be close to a lateral move. People just want to throw in BSchenn as well?
- hereticpride

Moving Vinny is going to be easier said than done. Schenn would bring a better return at this point. The D needs to be re-tooled to get a little faster and better puck movement from the back end. I think the flyers have good depth at forward and are still young and they have some good d prospects coming.

Here's one guaranteed to tick off Pens fans!


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FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jussi Jokinen ($3.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m)
Dennis Rasmussen ($0.800m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Jason Akeson ($0.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Matt Niskanen ($6.000m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Oliver Lauridsen ($0.600m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Andrew Alberts ($0.625m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Ray Emery ($1.250m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
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SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,813,333; BONUSES: $212,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,286,667

This is based on them trading VL and Grossmann
I thought that Alberts would be a cheap replacement for Gill as a 7th dman, though I would assume that if someone has a longterm injury they would either bring up Alt, Ghost or Hagg or make a deal. I know I'm rolling the dice with Lauridsen as the 6th dman, but in this lineup, he would only be getting a protected 10-12 minutes a game and maybe some fill in time on the PK.

Thoughts?
- BiggE

Whoa. Whichever team overpays Nisk 6 mil/yr is going to regret it.

The Calder trophy winning coburn? Or Myers? Take into account how good Myers looked when buf had a good year. For last few seasons buf has really sucked and he wasn't coached right. Put him in Philly with #1 pp and Amac and he'd tear it up. Coburn on the other hand doesn't have that potential. He's a 3 at utmost best but best suited as a 4. I'm sorry but at 4.5 mil that's not worth it. He's ok to have but many other d much more preferred
- Sms401

I would keep Coburn, but you have to give something to get something. B Schenn and Grossman is a fair deal with value for both IMO
Myers, Coburn, AMac, Luke, Streit, and either Timo ( reasonable cash) or Alt would be a good group to start

[quote=3flyerkids]

A healthy Mason, & one more solid D man may have been the difference in the NY series.

It's really tempting, because the kids we have may still be 3 years away, (or more), and I worry Giroux may be "beaten up" by then.

I think they are close. We all know the story of the slow start last year etc... They were a better team than record showed. Very we'll could have beaten NYR.
- 3flyerkids

See, that's where the disconnect for me is... I saw a team that was pretty bad elevated by great special teams and sometimes-brilliant goaltending. 5V5, parts of the Rangers series looked like Generals vs Globetrotters.

If the special teams are just a few % worse, I'm not sure they even make the PO's at all.

See, that's where the disconnect for me is... I saw a team that was pretty bad elevated by great special teams and sometimes-brilliant goaltending. 5V5, parts of the Rangers series looked like Generals vs Globetrotters.

If the special teams are just a few % worse, I'm not sure they even make the PO's at all.
- Tomahawk

Yeah, but, we still took them to 7 games, with a slow, spotty defense.

Moving Vinny is going to be easier said than done. Schenn would bring a better return at this point. The D needs to be re-tooled to get a little faster and better puck movement from the back end. I think the flyers have good depth at forward and are still young and they have some good d prospects coming.
- RobFlyers#1

So you just trade away BSchenn because Vinny cant be moved? I dont like that. You find the money elsewhere to keep him. Trade Grossmann for a cheaper option. Offer Kimmo what he is actually worth at this point (very little imo). Find a way to keep him. Laughton aside our top 5 prospects are all D men. I'm not sure what trading a talented young forward for even more accomplishes.

Not going to be hexy problem. He's getting traded. I can see a schenn, coburn, #1 pick and prospect for a dman trade at the draft.
- Sms401

Why anybody would want to trade Coburn is beyond me. And trading him for a defender simply creates a hole that you then fill with the trade, except it apparently cost you a couple extra players and a pick.

No.

As for Schenn, somewhere around $2 million should be good for his bridge contract as that is more real in-the-checking-account money than he's ever earned in the NHL by a fair amount, and it gives him incentive to push on up to the next level.

Moving Vinny is going to be easier said than done. Schenn would bring a better return at this point. The D needs to be re-tooled to get a little faster and better puck movement from the back end. I think the flyers have good depth at forward and are still young and they have some good d prospects coming.
- RobFlyers#1

This d needs to get a lot faster and a lot better at moving the puck. Ghost and morin will be a huge upgrade but could still use 1 more. As far as our depth I'm not that impressed. Hartnell needs to be moved if for his age and cap alone. Read is a nice player but I'm not rushing out to buy his jersey. Simmer is a beast on the pp in front of the net but that's about it. Raffl. Meh. Nice ok undrafted pick up all in all whoppty do. The rags 3rd and 4th line owned us all 7 games. If not for great goaltending it would have been ugly. Outside of g and jake we really don't have a hole lot. Maybe coots. If his offense improves. Maybe just watching la and chi makes me cynical. Even rags are light years ahead of us

To buffalo for Myers & foligno
- Sms401

Coburn>Myers
Schenn>Foligno

Whoa. Whichever team overpays Nisk 6 mil/yr is going to regret it.
- Blackstrom2

I just threw this out there for poops and giggles, I personally wouldn't want Niskanen for more than 5 million, however some GM is gonna give him 6 or more, just watch.

See, that's where the disconnect for me is... I saw a team that was pretty bad elevated by great special teams and sometimes-brilliant goaltending. 5V5, parts of the Rangers series looked like Generals vs Globetrotters.

If the special teams are just a few % worse, I'm not sure they even make the PO's at all.
- Tomahawk

This is where I am at with the team.

As fans, don't make the same mistakes Leafs fans made after last year. They hung with the Bruins in the first round of the playoffs and felt like contenders. How'd that carry over to this year?

The Flyers are not close to being contenders.

Coburn>Myers
Schenn>Foligno
- PhillySportsGuy

Agreed and agreed!