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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
I'm still pissed at the musil pick
With their CSS final rankings in North American skaters

Jenner 18
Gibson 1 in goalies
Jurco 20
Rattie 17
Rask 12 in europe
Ritchie 36
Saad 19
Sproul 54
Harrington 98
Jaskin 5 in Europe

All players I'd take ahead of him. As you can see, some talent was bypassed since musil was 38.

- ystoil



how do you feel about the pouliot pick over kesler, perry and richards??
one of the deepest drafts ever. and not only do we pass up on a bunch of bonfide stars, we take a total plug bust.

and later on we acquired 2of the only other busts from that round in nilsson and belle.
this franchise...jesus
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 24 @ 3:45 PM ET
how do you feel about the pouliot pick over kesler, perry and richards??
one of the deepest drafts ever. and not only do we pass up on a bonfide stars, but we take a total plug bust.

and later on we acquired 2of the only other busts from that round in nilsson and belle.
this franchise...jesus

- hugefemale dog77


I feel as bad as turning down comrie for perry and a pick

Edit: people rip Pierre McGuire but if he was our gm, we'd have parise (I think we traded down)
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
I feel as bad as turning down comrie for perry and a pick

Edit: people rip Pierre McGuire but if he was our gm, we'd have parise (I think we traded down)

- ystoil

we did trade down.
he'dve made ten other boneheaded moves though. hate mcguire


read an article about mcguires days in Hartford. nightmare apparently.
a total douche that didn't have the respect of one person in the locker room.


http://articles.courant.c...ral-manager-paul-holmgren


ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
we did trade down.
he'dve made ten other boneheaded moves though. hate mcguire


read an article about mcguires days in Hartford. nightmare apparently.
a total douche that didn't have the respect of one person in the locker room.


http://articles.courant.c...ral-manager-paul-holmgren

- hugefemale dog77


Did not know any of that. Wow.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
Honestly I'd be happy with that at this point. This team can't develop a 3rd liner for the life of them.
- Lahey

We give up on them and trade them away like Brodziak and Stoll
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
I'm still pissed at the musil pick
With their CSS final rankings in North American skaters

Jenner 18
Gibson 1 in goalies
Jurco 20
Rattie 17
Rask 12 in europe
Ritchie 36
Saad 19
Sproul 54
Harrington 98
Jaskin 5 in Europe

All players I'd take ahead of him. As you can see, some talent was bypassed since musil was 38.

- ystoil

That was a horrible pick. His scating is brutal.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
(frank) my life!!! Fishing in the river and just hooked the biggest sturgeon I've ever seen up close. Got the (frank)er all the way to shore and he snapped my pickerel rig. (frank)! Cock poop Balls!!!!!!!!
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

May 24 @ 4:14 PM ET
(frank) my life!!! Fishing in the river and just hooked the biggest sturgeon I've ever seen up close. Got the (frank)er all the way to shore and he snapped my pickerel rig. (frank)! Cock poop Balls!!!!!!!!
- Ihatebrianburke

Son of a female dog.... I feel for ya bro...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 24 @ 4:16 PM ET
That was a horrible pick. His scating is brutal.
- Ihatebrianburke

How many games have you watched Musil play lately?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 24 @ 4:24 PM ET
we did trade down.
he'dve made ten other boneheaded moves though. hate mcguire


read an article about mcguires days in Hartford. nightmare apparently.
a total douche that didn't have the respect of one person in the locker room.


http://articles.courant.c...ral-manager-paul-holmgren

- hugefemale dog77


Btw, thought your deal in the phx thread was fair. I also like the idea of this one

What about

Perron + 2015 1st + gagner + marincin for boedker + hanzal + Murphy + 2014 2nd

Oilers

Hall nuge eberle
Boedker hanzal yakupov

Ufa petry
Klefbom schultz
Ference murphy

Let draisaitl develop and we add a right hand shot young dman

Boedker is pretty solid at 211 lbs and lightning quick also adds two way abilities.

Perron is close to value the same value as hanzal IMO especially with hanzals injuries

Gagner + 2015 1st is close to boedker and a 2nd

Murphy has draft pedigree but marincin has performed excellently against top competition. Maybe a wash here (trying not to be an oilers homer haha) but long term is still up in the air. Murphy is also a year younger.

Thoughts?
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

May 24 @ 4:26 PM ET
He's nothing special and there are a lot of other players that should've been taken instead of him. I for one wanted Severson and still do
- MaximumBone

I played AA baseball with him for two years. He had the option of playing ball or hockey. The guy is insane
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 4:28 PM ET
Btw, thought your deal in the phx thread was fair. I also like the idea of this one

What about

Perron + 2015 1st + gagner + marincin for boedker + hanzal + Murphy + 2014 2nd

Oilers

Hall nuge eberle
Boedker hanzal yakupov

Ufa petry
Klefbom schultz
Ference murphy

Let draisaitl develop and we add a right hand shot young dman

Boedker is pretty solid at 211 lbs and lightning quick also adds two way abilities.

Perron is close to value the same value as hanzal IMO especially with hanzals injuries

Gagner + 2015 1st is close to boedker and a 2nd

Murphy has draft pedigree but marincin has performed excellently against top competition. Maybe a wash here (trying not to be an oilers homer haha) but long term is still up in the air. Murphy is also a year younger.

Thoughts?

- ystoil


it totally was.
he just really sounds clueless about these prospects.

and I dunno.
the package coming back is nice, but losing perron is tough.
hes the type of player we need more of, not less.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
I played AA baseball with him for two years. He had the option of playing ball or hockey. The guy is insane
- OilerFan16

Moroz? Or Severson?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
I played AA baseball with him for two years. He had the option of playing ball or hockey. The guy is insane
- OilerFan16


In what way?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 24 @ 4:32 PM ET
it totally was.
he just really sounds clueless about these prospects.

and I dunno.
the package coming back is nice, but losing perron is tough.
hes the type of player we need more of, not less.

- hugefemale dog77


I agree. It's tough. But boedker is a hard worker. Just doesn't have that edge.
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

May 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
Moroz? Or Severson?
- MaximumBone

Severson
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

May 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
In what way?
- laughs2907

How good he was at both sports
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
In what way?
- laughs2907

like he'll cut your fuking head off if you strike out insane
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

May 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
like he'll cut your fuking head off if you strike out insane
- hugefemale dog77

Poor choice of words on my part. Just a good athlete, I'd bet he does well in the NHL
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
I'm more upset about the Musil pick than the Moroz pick. At least the 2012 2nd round wasn't one of, if not THE deepest in the last decade
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
How good he was at both sports
- OilerFan16


Oh
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 24 @ 4:37 PM ET
like he'll cut your fuking head off if you strike out insane
- hugefemale dog77


That's more like it
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 24 @ 4:37 PM ET
I'm more upset about the Musil pick than the Moroz pick. At least the 2012 2nd round wasn't one of the deepest in the last decade
- TheNugeIsHuge


Yep. I remember them saying at the time as well that 2011 was going to be deep.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
How many games have you watched Musil play lately?
- MaximumBone

A couple OKC playoff games. He is very sound positionaly but the skating just isn't there and I doubt it ever will be. I wanted Jenner or Gibson at the time and still wish we'd landed one of them
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 24 @ 4:41 PM ET
A couple OKC playoff games. He is very sound positionaly but the skating just isn't there and I doubt it ever will be. I wanted Jenner or Gibson at the time and still wish we'd landed one of them
- Ihatebrianburke

Ok see that's a fair assessment. I just think you were a tad too extreme in your original post. While is skating is definitely a weakness I think it's being blown out of proportion. What he lacks in skating ability he makes up for with strong defensive awareness and positioning and has already taken on a role of mentoring and easing in partners like Gernat and Oesterle.
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