Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Wednesday Quick Hits
Author Message
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 28 @ 8:07 PM ET
Definitely something to keep an eye on...wonder if the NHL would step in and nulify it as a cap circumvention issue.
- Jsaquella


Wouldn't they have voided the Tim Thomas to the Isles deal then? Everyone knew that Thomas had no intention whatsoever of going to the Isles, but they still got his 5 mil cap hit to reach the floor without having to spend a dollar and Boston got the $$ off the books
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 8:11 PM ET
Wouldn't they have voided the Tim Thomas to the Isles deal then? Everyone knew that Thomas had no intention whatsoever of going to the Isles, but they still got his 5 mil cap hit to reach the floor without having to spend a dollar and Boston got the $$ off the books
- BiggE


You expect consistency from the NHL?

They tend to enforce these things on a case by case basis.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 8:11 PM ET
Go Kingsssss
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 28 @ 8:15 PM ET
You expect consistency from the NHL?

They tend to enforce these things on a case by case basis.

- Jsaquella



True but the Thomas deal sure seems to set a clear precedent
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 28 @ 8:16 PM ET
Go Kingsssss
- Giroux_Is_God

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 28 @ 8:17 PM ET
My motto for the rest of the playoffs:

Go anyone, cept the stinkin, frankin, vomit inducing Rangers!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 8:17 PM ET
(frank)

(frank) (frank)
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 8:18 PM ET


True but the Thomas deal sure seems to set a clear precedent

- BiggE


Yeah, but they body slammed the Devils over Kovalchuk and ignored all the other back divers. They're so inconsistent and the Flyers signed so many backdiving deals I could see the league sticking it too them.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 8:18 PM ET
My motto for the rest of the playoffs:

Go anyone, cept the stinkin, frankin, vomit inducing Rangers!

- BiggE

My motto is go Kings and Habs!!!!!!!!!!

But the foundation of my life is ANYONE BUT THE RANGERS
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 28 @ 8:18 PM ET

- BiggE


I want the kings to win but I still want it to go to game 7. The more games they play, the higher the cap ceiling is.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 28 @ 8:19 PM ET
Yeah, but they body slammed the Devils over Kovalchuk and ignored all the other back divers. They're so inconsistent and the Flyers signed so many backdiving deals I could see the league sticking it too them.
- Jsaquella


Ugh, good point
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 8:20 PM ET
I want the kings to win but I still want it to go to game 7. The more games they play, the higher the cap ceiling is.
- FlyersSteve118

....wut
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 28 @ 8:21 PM ET
Yeah, but they body slammed the Devils over Kovalchuk and ignored all the other back divers. They're so inconsistent and the Flyers signed so many backdiving deals I could see the league sticking it too them.
- Jsaquella


They might not make such a big deal over us trading away a guy on LTIR anyways, as long as it doesn't turn out to be - a bidding war for his cap hit - situation.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 8:23 PM ET
They might not make such a big deal over us trading away a guy on LTIR anyways, as long as it doesn't turn out to be - a bidding war for his cap hit - situation.
- FlyersSteve118


They could, though, because the Flyers need to be under the cap at the start of the season to maximize the LTIR bennies....also, the other team is blatantly circumventing the floor, which the PA might not like
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 28 @ 8:24 PM ET
....wut
- Giroux_Is_God


The more revenue the league gets, the higher the cap ceiling will be. They are saying that since it is 4 big market teams still playing the cap ceiling will be higher than the 69mil estimate.

Every 20mil earned is something like 400k in cap dollars. All the markets are worth like 2 and 3mil per game played. So every extra game played in like a 50k increase in the cap. Ill try to find a link to the article.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 28 @ 8:26 PM ET
They could, though, because the Flyers need to be under the cap at the start of the season to maximize the LTIR bennies....also, the other team is blatantly circumventing the floor, which the PA might not like
- Jsaquella


Technically they can use LTIR $$ on the last day of the preseason.

Edit: and the flyers will call up as many people as possible to fit within the 4.9mil LTIR $$ and it will be just like having free cap space anyways. Just a pain in the ass to do it.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 8:28 PM ET
The more revenue the league gets, the higher the cap ceiling will be. They are saying that since it is 4 big market teams still playing the cap ceiling will be higher than the 69mil estimate.

Every 20mil earned is something like 400k in cap dollars. All the markets are worth like 2 and 3mil per game played. So every extra game played in like a 50k increase in the cap. Ill try to find a link to the article.

- FlyersSteve118

I don't even care. The cap can be $6.73 for (frank)'s sake as long as the Rangers lose
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 8:30 PM ET
Technically they can use LTIR $$ on the last day of the preseason.
- FlyersSteve118


At the start of the season, they have to be under the cap, counting Pronger, to maximize his LTIR relief.

If they are over the cap by $300K at the start of the season, that is all the LTIR space they get from Pronger. That was the reason for the roster maneuvering last summer, when they waived Hall and kept Laughton.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 28 @ 8:32 PM ET
At the start of the season, they have to be under the cap, counting Pronger, to maximize his LTIR relief.

If they are over the cap by $300K at the start of the season, that is all the LTIR space they get from Pronger. That was the reason for the roster maneuvering last summer, when they waived Hall and kept Laughton.

- Jsaquella


But if they are over the cap by a the full amount they will get the full allowance. So its just a situation of whichever is easier to work with.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 8:33 PM ET
But if they are over the cap by a the full amount they will get the full allowance. So its just a situation of whichever is easier to work with.
- FlyersSteve118


True, but they can also only have 23 players on the roster. Can't submit a 32 man roster
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 8:38 PM ET
wow this game is WILD
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 28 @ 8:40 PM ET
I feel like I'm watching a Flyers Penguins game
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
I feel like I'm watching a Flyers Penguins game
- Marc D

I feel like this thread tonight is Hockeybuzz's equivalent to Wyoming
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 28 @ 9:20 PM ET
I feel like I'm watching a Flyers Penguins game
- Marc D


Who would have thought the 4 leading scorers in the playoffs would be all Kings
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 28 @ 9:20 PM ET
You expect consistency from the NHL?

They tend to enforce these things on a case by case basis.

- Jsaquella


They just can't be stupid about it. Don't trade Pronger to Florida without asking the league if they'd ok the deal.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25  Next