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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 30 @ 8:33 AM ET
IMO all we need to get #6/#7 is Ehrhoff and #39. And I'd do it every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays. Virtanen is going to be a monster.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


If you would do it all day, it probably means you need to add more.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 8:41 AM ET
IMO all we need to get #6/#7 is Ehrhoff and #39. And I'd do it every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays. Virtanen is going to be a monster.
- LetsGoBuffalo75



Vancouver and Carolina says no thanks to that deal IMO.

Vancouver is going to retool but the last thing they need to do is trade that pick for another d-man making 4 mil. They need a top 6 forward and lack high quality in the prospect pool. New GM needs to make a mark with the pick and Hoff isn't it.

Carolina was foolish enough to trade a top 10 pick for Staal. I'd bet if they could do it all over again they wouldn't make the move. Plus with a new GM that pick has more value to them if they keep it. See Vancouver.

IMO the only team you might be able to convince is Anaheim and even then it's a long shot. I see them instead reaching for Alex Tuch who is compared to Getzlaf.



12-20 is probably more realistic with 15-20 being almost a lock if you make it Hoff and 31. Hell 31 and 39 would probably get you back in the 18-25 range by themselves.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 30 @ 8:42 AM ET
IMO all we need to get #6/#7 is Ehrhoff and #39. And I'd do it every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays. Virtanen is going to be a monster.
- LetsGoBuffalo75



When is the last time a team moved a player and a 2nd for the top 10 pick? The closest thing was Pittsburgh and the Staal trade, and that involved a first rounder.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 8:44 AM ET
When is the last time a team moved a player and a 2nd for the top 10 pick? The closest thing was Pittsburgh and the Staal trade, and that involved a first rounder.
- buffalofan19



He was traded for the #8 pick in 2012, Brandon Sutter, and Brian Dumoulin.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 30 @ 8:46 AM ET
When is the last time a team moved a player and a 2nd for the top 10 pick? The closest thing was Pittsburgh and the Staal trade, and that involved a first rounder.
- buffalofan19

Corey Schneider didn't need a. 2nd
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 30 @ 8:46 AM ET
He was traded for the #8 pick in 2012, Brandon Sutter, and Brian Dumoulin.
- dadeadhead

Schneider
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 30 @ 8:48 AM ET
When is the last time a team moved a player and a 2nd for the top 10 pick? The closest thing was Pittsburgh and the Staal trade, and that involved a first rounder.
- buffalofan19


...That's why I originally said include STL first in 15.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 8:48 AM ET
Schneider
- sbroads24



Another team that got ripped off IMO.

Actually both teams did.

NJ overpaid for Schneider and then in turn Vancouver overpaid for Horvat.

That said Schneider has more value than Hoff.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 30 @ 8:49 AM ET
...That's why I originally said include STL first in 15.
- ImThatGuy



There were no other picks involved.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 30 @ 9:01 AM ET
There were no other picks involved.
- dadeadhead


My original deal was Ehrhoff, STL 1st, 2 2nds. for 7 Draft Virtanen

#2 - Reinhart
#7 - Virtanen
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 30 @ 9:18 AM ET
IMO all we need to get #6/#7 is Ehrhoff and #39. And I'd do it every day of the week, and twice on Tuesdays. Virtanen is going to be a monster.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


I would rather get barbashev in the late top 15

He's everything you look for in a player
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 9:46 AM ET
Threw him out at 1st FROM THE OUTFIELD! Is there anything this team can't do?
- Sabresfan-365

throw from ss to first base

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 9:52 AM ET
My original deal was Ehrhoff, STL 1st, 2 2nds. for 7 Draft Virtanen

#2 - Reinhart
#7 - Virtanen

- ImThatGuy

http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
throw from ss to first base


- homiedclown


Saw Godzilla last night. Too much love story, not enough Godzilla IMO.

Pretty good though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
Another team that got ripped off IMO.

Actually both teams did.

NJ overpaid for Schneider and then in turn Vancouver overpaid for Horvat.

That said Schneider has more value than Hoff.

- dadeadhead

I like Bo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
Saw Godzilla last night. Too much love story, not enough Godzilla IMO.

Pretty good though.

- ImThatGuy

agreed that they did not have enough of the lizard


many of the older movies had the same amount of face time, but that was my biggest issue


the last 30 minutes may have been the best special effects in any movie though
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
I'd add whatever we needed, but I still think Ehrhoff and #39 would get it done. Schneider, a questionable goaltender, was traded for a top 10 pick in a supposedly great draft class in 2013. IMO Ehrhoff is worth more than him, and in a less deep draft class, it wouldn't surprise me if Carolina accepted that deal and gave us #6. Their D isn't too amazing. Adding Ehrhoff would improve it massively, and would make them a playoff team easily IMO, so long as Ward doesn't poop the bed again. Even if they didn't accept the first deal, we can add enough with no problem. We have the assets.

Still, best-case scenario for me:
#2 - Reinhart
#6 - Virtanen
#31 - Demko
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
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May 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
There were no other picks involved.
- dadeadhead



http://news.distractify.c...message-from-a-bartender/
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 30 @ 10:01 AM ET
http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
- homiedclown



No way Ritchie makes it past TOR, for one. Highly doubt Nylander makes it to 6. I see him pretty much swapped with Virtanen. No chance Ho-Sang goes all the way to 20, and also very unlikey that guys like Barbashev, McKeown, and Kempe go that late. It's all my opinion, but I have to disagree with a lot of that.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'd add whatever we needed, but I still think Ehrhoff and #39 would get it done. Schneider, a questionable goaltender, was traded for a top 10 pick in a supposedly great draft class in 2013. IMO Ehrhoff is worth more than him, and in a less deep draft class, it wouldn't surprise me if Carolina accepted that deal and gave us #6. Their D isn't too amazing. Adding Ehrhoff would improve it massively, and would make them a playoff team easily IMO, so long as Ward doesn't poop the bed again. Even if they didn't accept the first deal, we can add enough with no problem. We have the assets.

Still, best-case scenario for me:
#2 - Reinhart
#6 - Virtanen
#31 - Demko

- LetsGoBuffalo75



Hold up if we're trading up to 6 everyone should agree ehlers or bust
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

May 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
Hold up if we're trading up to 6 everyone should agree ehlers or bust
- gerbe75pts

I love him, but IMO he's just more risky than Virtanen... If Virtanen is gone, or we only manage a pick at 8/9, then absolutely.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 30 @ 10:10 AM ET
I love him, but IMO he's just more risky than Virtanen... If Virtanen is gone, or we only manage a pick at 8/9, then absolutely.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


I still think we should go safe with Barbashev he's going to be better then Virtanen
IMO .

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 30 @ 10:11 AM ET
Hold up if we're trading up to 6 everyone should agree ehlers or bust
- gerbe75pts


Too small, IMHO. Murray stated he wants to get bigger up front.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 30 @ 10:11 AM ET
Hold up if we're trading up to 6 everyone should agree ehlers or bust
- gerbe75pts



I thought Ehlers was going top 5...
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 30 @ 10:15 AM ET
I still think we should go safe with Barbashev he's going to be better then Virtanen
IMO .

- gerbe75pts


Disagree here. Virtanen has all the tools (and size) and has scored at a PPG pace in the WHL
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