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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
They don't win as much that is for sure. Couturier & Voracek are keepers but not all stars yet. The other 2 I'd be opened to moving in the right deal.
- iladel90

other than Giroux any flyer player should be available
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
I just don't think I could root for Chicago... even against the Rangers.
- eayost


Blasphemy!!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 1 @ 10:04 PM ET
pretty dumb thing to do right getting outshot 16-4, Richards in the box that period.
- Just5


Honestly think that is the reason why they were outshot in that period? Sutter is an outstanding Coach. He knows what he's doing.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 1 @ 10:04 PM ET
You're nuts! Simmonds in my mind plays equally as well as Voracek within each player's own role. They both do, what they do very well.
- SuperSchennBros

I love Simmonds game 5 ft from the net and in....the rest of it is below average for a top 6 winger in this league IMO.
iladel90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bensalem, PA
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 1 @ 10:04 PM ET
You're nuts! Simmonds in my mind plays equally as well as Voracek within each player's own role. They both do, what they do very well.
- SuperSchennBros


Simmonds benefits from the skill around him on the power play. I think there are other guys that could fill that spot & play with more skill on line rushes & make better passes in general. Also I said in the right deal I'm not interested in giving him away.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 1 @ 10:05 PM ET
I love Simmonds game 5 ft from the net and in....the rest of it is below average for a top 6 winger in this league IMO.
- Just5


Maybe they should trade him this Summer.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
Flyers management have yet to realize that in a cap era you can't make trades like a 1, 2, 3 and young prospect for a 39 year old player.

Name the player that did nothing in Philly? It took place before the Cap era.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
Simmonds benefits from the skill around him on the power play. I think there are other guys that could fill that spot & play with more skill on line rushes & make better passes in general. Also I said in the right deal I'm not interested in giving him away.
- iladel90

So anyone can stand in front of the opposing goalie's net as his teammates fire pucks at him? Anyone can do this?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 1 @ 10:07 PM ET
Maybe they should trade him this Summer.
- MJL


If they see fit I don't see why not
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
Flyers management have yet to realize that in a cap era you can't make trades like a 1, 2, 3 and young prospect for a 39 year old player.

Name the player that did nothing in Philly?

- jstross

Homer resembles this remark
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
Flyers management have yet to realize that in a cap era you can't make trades like a 1, 2, 3 and young prospect for a 39 year old player.

Name the player that did nothing in Philly? It took place before the Cap era.

- jstross


Ugh, Adam Oates, don't remind me
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
Flyers management have yet to realize that in a cap era you can't make trades like a 1, 2, 3 and young prospect for a 39 year old player.

Name the player that did nothing in Philly? It took place before the Cap era.

- jstross


Adam Oates. Who actually did more in Philly than any of the picks or Ouellet did in DC
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
I love Simmonds game 5 ft from the net and in....the rest of it is below average for a top 6 winger in this league IMO.
- Just5

Tell you what. Trade all the tradable youth now and let's complain when Simmonds, Brayden Schenn and Voracek all start scoring against us, as well as winning championships, the same way we have with Sharp, Williams, Carter and Richards. Sign me up!
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
Ugh, Adam Oates, don't remind me
- BiggE


Winner winner Chicken dinner. FLyers could recover by out spending people. They can't do that anymore. Draft picks for rentals will kill a club in the cap era.
iladel90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bensalem, PA
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
So anyone can stand in front of the opposing goalie's net as his teammates fire pucks at him? Anyone can do this?
- SuperSchennBros


Not anyone but others. I think Schenn could be good in that role maybe Couturier since he is a big strong player.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 1 @ 10:11 PM ET
If I'm Sutter, I'm giving my boy Justin Williams a 16 minute shift
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
Tell you what. Trade all the tradable youth now and let's complain when Simmonds, Brayden Schenn and Voracek all start scoring again us, as well as winning championships, the same way we have with Sharp, Williams, Carter and Richards. Sign me up!
- SuperSchennBros


never said I wanted him traded. just telling it like it is. hes 25 now. Not such a spring chicken
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
If I'm Sutter, I'm giving my boy Justin Williams a 16 minute shift
- Giroux_Is_God

still cant believe they traded him?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
If I'm Sutter, I'm giving my boy Justin Williams a 16 minute shift
- Giroux_Is_God


Another point and he's alone on top of the list of NHLers in scoring in game sevens.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
Tell you what. Trade all the tradable youth now and let's complain when Simmonds, Brayden Schenn and Voracek all start scoring against us, as well as winning championships, the same way we have with Sharp, Williams, Carter and Richards. Sign me up!
- SuperSchennBros


I don't think anyone insinuates making bad deals is ok but whatever
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
Not anyone but others. I think Schenn could be good in that role maybe Couturier since he is a big strong player.
- iladel90

When Couturier takes a puck in the teeth, who checks the opposing top lines?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
never said I wanted him traded. just telling it like it is. hes 25 now. Not such a spring chicken
- Just5

You're saying things...but That's pretty much it.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
When Couturier takes a puck in the teeth, who checks the opposing top lines?
- SuperSchennBros

he doesnt have teeth
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:17 PM ET
never said I wanted him traded. just telling it like it is. hes 25 now. Not such a spring chicken
- Just5


I would move any player in the right deal. I think Simmonds is alright at 5v5. He's a good board player, but not great in his own end.

He spent much of the season with VL. I think he would reap the benefits of playing with guys who compliment his game a little better.

He's a GREAT pp player though. It may not look like he does a lot, but his net front play is outstanding.

He's also one of the few guys we have signed at a very reasonable number.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
Adam Oates. Who actually did more in Philly than any of the picks or Ouellet did in DC
- Jsaquella


Flyers certainly could've gotten more for a top prospect a 1,2, 3 for a guy that played 14 games and did nothing. I hated the trade when it happened and it was an awful trade.

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