Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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I think I'm more partial to drafting North American kids because there is less of a learning curve, you know that they want to be in the NHL and less complications bringing them over. There are young prospects who come over seas to play junior in Canada long before they are drafted, which makes me partial to those types of players as well. I believe Jake Voracek is an example of this. Unless a kid is lights out, I would try to take someone more adjusted to North America. - SuperSchennBros
To be very honest, that is the most overrated part of player development. The players who can adapt, will adapt. Those who can't are not helped (some have even been hindered) by coming over here to play junior hockey. The real key is knowing when the player is ready to come over and not trying to rush it.
The primary benefit of coming over earlier really isn't the rink adaptation. Rather, it's more of the language/culture adjustment (which is much less of an adjustment for the Swedes and Finns than the Czechs and especially the Russians).
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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He's got 60-70 pounds on a lot of his peers... bulling his way around the ice won't work forever. - Tomahawk
No, he's going to have to learn how to use it at the NHL level. Doesn't matter he's not making it to #17 |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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No, he's going to have to learn how to use it at the NHL level. Doesn't matter he's not making it to #17 - ob18
I'll be doing cart-wheels if/when he gets taken before their pick, much like I did w/ Wilson.
They always say you can't teach size, but I'd much rather take a chance on a severely undersized guy who's had to compensate by being smart and competitive over a guy who's been coasting via natural advantages. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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I'll be doing cart-wheels if/when he gets taken before their pick, much like I did w/ Wilson.
They always say you can't teach size, but I'd much rather take a chance on a severely undersized guy who's had to compensate by being smart and competitive over a guy who's been coasting via natural advantages. - Tomahawk
I'm sticking with who I listed in the 10 I think could make it to #17 |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I'll be doing cart-wheels if/when he gets taken before their pick, much like I did w/ Wilson.
They always say you can't teach size, but I'd much rather take a chance on a severely undersized guy who's had to compensate by being smart and competitive over a guy who's been coasting via natural advantages. - Tomahawk
How many of his games have you actually seen him play, to know that he's been coasting via natural advantages? |
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vejim
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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To be very honest, that is the most overrated part of player development. The players who can adapt, will adapt. Those who can't are not helped (some have even been hindered) by coming over here to play junior hockey. The real key is knowing when the player is ready to come over and not trying to rush it.
The primary benefit of coming over earlier really isn't the rink adaptation. Rather, it's more of the language/culture adjustment (which is much less of an adjustment for the Swedes and Finns than the Czechs and especially the Russians). - bmeltzer
Bill, I am surprised that Pitts didn't offer you the GM position? |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I'd take him in a minute but they need more picks not less. - ob18
If they moved up using a package of this year's 1st and a B-level prospect or 2 (Lauridsen/Cousins/Straka/Konan types) and were able to draft Fleury at 12, I'd be very happy. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Bill, I am surprised that Pitts didn't offer you the GM position? - vejim
Maybe they did. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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How many of his games have you actually seen him play, to know that he's been coasting via natural advantages? - MJL
Enough of them. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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If they moved up using a package of this year's 1st and a B-level prospect or 2 (Lauridsen/Cousins/Straka/Konan types) and were able to draft Fleury at 12, I'd be very happy. - jmatchett383
You know that wouldn't be enough though |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Does anyone think that the deal Dan Boyle signs could have an impact on what Kimmo might want. Boyle is two years younger and had 36 points to Kimmos 35 pts. Boyle is coming off a 6.6 cap hit and Kimmo is at 6. I was thinking depending on what Boyle signs for it could impact what Kimmo wants. Say boyle's cap hit goes to 5.5 or 5 million would Kimmo look at that and say the least he takes is 5. Could his drop depend on Boyles drop? |
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vejim
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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Does anyone think that the deal Dan Boyle signs could have an impact on what Kimmo might want. Boyle is two years younger and had 36 points to Kimmos 35 pts. Boyle is coming off a 6.6 cap hit and Kimmo is at 6. I was thinking depending on what Boyle signs for it could impact what Kimmo wants. Say boyle's cap hit goes to 5.5 or 5 million would Kimmo look at that and say the least he takes is 5. Could his drop depend on Boyles drop? - J35Bacher
hello Honka, goodbye Kimo |
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Jim Rutherford is going to be announced as the new GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins. #TSN - BulliesPhan87
NOOOOOOO!!!!!! |
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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Typical Montreal, PA Joined: 07.10.2008
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! - funmaster18
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Does anyone think that the deal Dan Boyle signs could have an impact on what Kimmo might want. Boyle is two years younger and had 36 points to Kimmos 35 pts. Boyle is coming off a 6.6 cap hit and Kimmo is at 6. I was thinking depending on what Boyle signs for it could impact what Kimmo wants. Say boyle's cap hit goes to 5.5 or 5 million would Kimmo look at that and say the least he takes is 5. Could his drop depend on Boyles drop? - J35Bacher
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me the MARKET and not what some whim is going to dictate what Kimmo Timonen gets paid should he decide to come back? Blasphemy.
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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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Wait a minute.
Are you telling me the MARKET and not what some whim is going to dictate what Kimmo Timonen gets paid should he decide to come back? Blasphemy. - johndewar
Lies... all nasty little lies. |
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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! - funmaster18
Put the helmet back on - take deep breaths. Everything will be A-OK. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Jim Rutherford is going to be announced as the new GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins. #TSN - BulliesPhan87
I was really hoping Pierre would get that job, just for the entertainment value.
Rutherford was a good pull for the Pens. |
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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? - aightwebang17
More Pierre |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I was really hoping Pierre would get that job, just for the entertainment value.
Rutherford was a good pull for the Pens. - johndewar
Seems like a lateral move at best imo |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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More Pierre - funmaster18
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funmaster18
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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Put the helmet back on - take deep breaths. Everything will be A-OK. - FlyersGrace
Pierre is going to get a boner for Giroux now, just to spite the pens |
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bodiva88
Referee Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices. Joined: 07.01.2007
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? - aightwebang17
I think he was hoping to get PM off the airwaves. |
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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I think he was hoping to get PM off the airwaves. - bodiva88
A guy can dream, right? |
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