Adam French. He pooped on Kapanen, Tuch and someone else
- PhillySportsGuy

yes, that's it. adam french. never trust a guy whose last name is a language.

i really have no idea.
- hammarby31

I was thinking French, like someone else said. I had them confused.

yes, that's it. adam french. never trust a guy whose last name is a language.
- hammarby31

Or just never trust the French.

True, but that pick was 59th overall, so it was pretty much a 3rd.
- jmatchett383

I'm comfortable sitting at #17 or even sliding back to around #20 - #22

True, but that pick was 59th overall, so it was pretty much a 3rd.
- jmatchett383

Cgy traded back 7-spots in 2012 and got pick #42 out of it. I'd guess moving up 5-spots would cost us pick #48 or equivalent haul in players/prospects.

I'd prefer Pierre stay on the air opposed to Jim Jackson. He's brutal. The worst imo.
- PLindbergh31

at least PM isn't the pxp guy. his bench gig keeps his input down to some degree. i don't think JJ is the worst. not by a long shot. however, i do not enjoy his work any longer.

i've said it before - gene is the best flyers pxp guy that will ever be. he'll never be replaced.

Cgy traded back 7-spots in 2012 and got pick #42 out of it. I'd guess moving up 5-spots would cost us pick #48 or equivalent haul in players/prospects.
- Tomahawk

Not when we need more prospect depth, Hexy was involved in building LA, if he takes that approach he'd move back before moving up. Or at least I think that anyway

if KT stays, i assume he'll get in something in the 3m range.
- hammarby31

I'm assuming $4.5M.

Honestly, Kimmo would get $6M on the open market.

Or just never trust the French.
- jmatchett383

i wouldn't go quite that far.

yes, that's it. adam french. never trust a guy whose last name is a language.
- hammarby31

I'm assuming $4.5M.

Honestly, Kimmo would get $6M on the open market.
- PhillySportsGuy

for 1 year? maybe on a team with room/needed to get to the floor. i don't think he's worth 6.

maybe he'll get 4.5. but i believe the flyers are tight to the cap, as usual, and i don't know that hextall will want to be shuffling all kinds of parts to accommodate him. i think that 1-1.5 could be better spent than on him.

Not when we need more prospect depth, Hexy was involved in building LA, if he takes that approach he'd move back before moving up. Or at least I think that anyway
- ob18

I'd prefer to pick twice... but it's good to have a rough idea of cost if somebody fantastic drops to 10-13.

I'm comfortable sitting at #17 or even sliding back to around #20 - #22
- ob18

Same. Giving up more picks to move up will leave them with very little in the next 2 rounds.

I'm assuming $4.5M.

Honestly, Kimmo would get $6M on the open market.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah, that's the ballpark I'm thinking -- $4M w/ bonuses that could raise it to $5M.

I'd prefer to pick twice... but it's good to have a rough idea of cost if somebody fantastic drops to 10-13.
- Tomahawk

No doubt....Just going with how limited our prospect pool is right now, giving up more picks isn't the best way to go

Same. Giving up more picks to move up will leave them with very little in the next 2 rounds.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm not saying they should, just asking what it would take. I'm just very high on H. Fleury, so if it didn't cost us our first/second or first/A-type prospect, I'd do it. If that's not feasible, then I wouldn't.

for 1 year? maybe on a team with room/needed to get to the floor. i don't think he's worth 6.

maybe he'll get 4.5. but i believe the flyers are tight to the cap, as usual, and i don't know that hextall will want to be shuffling all kinds of parts to accommodate him. i think that 1-1.5 could be better spent than on him.
- hammarby31

He's still a top 4, two-way defenseman with high character and playoff experience. You don't think a team like Colorado would pay $6M for one year of Kimmo?

To be very honest, that is the most overrated part of player development. The players who can adapt, will adapt. Those who can't are not helped (some have even been hindered) by coming over here to play junior hockey. The real key is knowing when the player is ready to come over and not trying to rush it.

The primary benefit of coming over earlier really isn't the rink adaptation. Rather, it's more of the language/culture adjustment (which is much less of an adjustment for the Swedes and Finns than the Czechs and especially the Russians).
- bmeltzer

I just don't like the attitude that some European and Russian players eventually get by wanting to go home. Ilya Kovalchuk being a prime example. Jagr to another extent, even though he came back and has been loved by his all his teammates since coming back. Some teams have usde a first round pick and they don't even come over. I know it's rare but it still bugs me.

I just don't like the attitude that some European and Russian players eventually get by wanting to go home. Ilya Kovalchuk being a prime example. Jagr to another extent, even though he came back and has been loved by his all his teammates since coming back. Some teams have usde a first round pick and they don't even come over. I know it's rare but it still bugs me.
- SuperSchennBros

To be fair, US/Canadian players can be just as cranky and whiney for different reasons.

Asking because wha if Boyle say sings again at 6 mil. Do you want kimmo back again at 6 mil? That's all I am asking
- J35Bacher

If Kimmo wants to come back, he's going to want to be paid fairly and according to the market.

He has stated that if he comes back, it won't be for the dollar, but he won't come back for free.

As for me, I think the Flyers need Kimmo more than Kimmo needs the Flyers right now (unless Hextall has a trade he plans on unfurling on the league that brings a comparable defenseman back for the Flyers).

I'm not saying they should, just asking what it would take. I'm just very high on H. Fleury, so if it didn't cost us our first/second or first/A-type prospect, I'd do it. If that's not feasible, then I wouldn't.
- jmatchett383

Yeah. This is why people get upset when the Flyers trade away 2nd and 3rd rounders like they're meaningless. They may not produce many star players from those rounds, but they are a valuable trading chip on draft night.

I know I'm stating the obvious, but, please don't stop me. I'd like to read it again.

I just don't like the attitude that some European and Russian players eventually get by wanting to go home. Ilya Kovalchuk being a prime example. Jagr to another extent, even though he came back and has been loved by his all his teammates since coming back. Some teams have usde a first round pick and they don't even come over. I know it's rare but it still bugs me.
- SuperSchennBros

Not sure Jagr is a great example. He went to the KHL for the money, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah. This is why people get upset when the Flyers trade away 2nd and 3rd rounders like they're meaningless. They may not produce many star players from those rounds, but they are a valuable trading chip on draft night.

I know I'm stating the obvious, but, please don't stop me. I'd like to read it again.
- PhillySportsGuy

I could never stop Raptor Jesus.

We'd also end the comments like "absolutely phenomenal hockey player. Oozes with creativity and talent. No one else in the league could make such a magnificent play like that", when all Crosby did was bat a puck out of the air and pass it.
- funmaster18

It would dramatically reduce the mentions of Shattuck-St. Mary's. Wonder what they pay him for that?

I'm not saying they should, just asking what it would take. I'm just very high on H. Fleury, so if it didn't cost us our first/second or first/A-type prospect, I'd do it. If that's not feasible, then I wouldn't.
- jmatchett383

Like his game when I watched, but I'd be just as happy with Dysin Mayo, Aaron Irving, or Joshua Jacobs (right now committed to Michigan St with his OHL rights belonging to Sarnia)