He should. I doubt he wants to be part of the rebuild that you guys are about to partake
- nonpoint22

He just said this week ,he just bought a house ,his wife is Peggy, and he is not waiving.

That could be a smokescreen though.

He just said this week ,he just bought a house ,his wife is Peggy, and he is not waiving.

That could be a smokescreen though.
- VANTEL

Didn't Linden just say he wasn't going to move him?

He just said this week ,he just bought a house ,his wife is Peggy, and he is not waiving.

That could be a smokescreen though.
- VANTEL

No I actually believe it when they bring there families into the rational and honestly I cant blame athletes on that one

No I actually believe it when they bring there families into the rational and honestly I cant blame athletes on that one
- nonpoint22

He earned the right. As much as I would like the trade ,I respect his decision .

Didn't Linden just say he wasn't going to move him?
- Tomahawk

After he asked him to waive and he said no.

I also doubt Poile still really wants to deal with us after the Weber offer sheet
- nonpoint22

He might have too. His new coach knows most of our roster.

Does anyone on here actually think we have a shot of unloading any of the following contracts Hartnell, Lecavalier, or Grossmann? In that order I think they are the equivalent to Ryan Howard in baseball, not in terms of dollars but of how there contracts make them unmovable

/doubt

Poile is in love with Josi like you wouldn't believe... compared him to a young Ryan Suter.

The only guy out of that group that the Flyers could conceivably shake loose is MDZ...
- Tomahawk

And that would just mean you're trading just to trade, you know?

The reason you probably shouldn't move Schenn now is the reason some of us, Bo a few pages back, have said for a while now: No one really knows what Schenn's true value is, for better or worse.

So of course the Flyers will match a tender of a second-rounder or below. That's a no-brainer.

And they should match an offer sheet if a stronger team's proposal would result in a low first -- because Schenn has probably progressed to the point where you wouldn't move him for a pick, say, lower than...21 or 22? Because then you would just be trading his established production for a player who might not be one bit better, or could be worse or not make it at all.

Like PSG said, it would get trickier if a bad team offer sheeted him at that level, because then you start talking about higher-end talent in a stronger draft...but conversely, if you are a lottery team, why on God's green earth would you offer on Brayden Schenn? You should look to make that pick yourself, or check in on Evander Kane or somebody like that, to me, if you are looking to burn the pick.

This is just not the time, for anyone, to offer sheet Schenn. It makes zero sense, because you aren't going to get him for cheap, and the high-end offers are simply too much for a responsible manager to make.

To me, it's a borderline non-issue -- fun to talk about on a slow day, but really, how realistic is it that someone is gonna offer sheet Schenn at a level the Flyers won't match, at this point in his career?

He might have too. His new coach knows most of our roster.
- mochoson

Lavi probably accepted the job under the condition that Poile gets him some actual forwards in the offseason. We know Weber has been looking for that for a while now as well. I could see Lavi pushing really hard for Hartnell. Not sure if Hartsy would waive his NTC though.

Personally, I would take Del Zotto for Hartnell in a heartbeat.

Does anyone on here actually think we have a shot of unloading any of the following contracts Hartnell, Lecavalier, or Grossmann? In that order I think they are the equivalent to Ryan Howard in baseball, not in terms of dollars but of how there contracts make them unmovable
- nonpoint22

Hartnell, yes.

Grossman, maybe.

Vinny, no.

Hartnell, yes.

Grossman, maybe.

Vinny, no.
- Tomahawk

Agree .

My feeling is PIT for Brandon Sutter, Despres and a pick.
- Tomahawk

I think Vancouver would want Pouliot instead of Despres. Sutter, Despres and a late first rounder seems a lot like the deal Pitt made for Hossa. A whole lot of nothing.

Hartnell, yes.

Grossman, maybe.

Vinny, no.
- Tomahawk

That's where I am -- you might be able to move Hartnell free and clear. But Grossmann is trickier, and i just don't see how you move Vinny without eating a metric (frank)-ton of salary or taking a bad contract back.

I hope I am wrong, but if i was a GM, i'd make the Flyers pay me to take Vinny

Does anyone on here actually think we have a shot of unloading any of the following contracts Hartnell, Lecavalier, or Grossmann? In that order I think they are the equivalent to Ryan Howard in baseball, not in terms of dollars but of how there contracts make them unmovable
- nonpoint22

Gomez's contract was unloaded so there's always hope.

Little, perhaps regarding Vinny, but hope.

Hartnell, yes.

Grossman, maybe.

Vinny, no.
- Tomahawk

I think they all could be moved. I think a team like Toronto would have interest in a guy like Vinny and Grossman too. It might take eating some salary on Vinny's contract though.

Hartnell, yes.

Grossman, maybe.

Vinny, no.
- Tomahawk

I think Grossmann is moveable for almost nothing.

I think they all could be moved. I think a team like Toronto would have interest in a guy like Vinny and Grossman too. It might take eating some salary on Vinny's contract though.
- ManCity

Vinny could center for Clarkson. TO would really get their money's worth there.

I think they all could be moved. I think a team like Toronto would have interest in a guy like Vinny and Grossman too. It might take eating some salary on Vinny's contract though.
- ManCity

Vinny for Clarkson

I think Grossmann is moveable for almost nothing.
- PhillySportsGuy

If there wasn't a cloud of health concerns hovering over his head, I think they'd be able to get a top-90 pick or so... maybe better to move him in-season when his health is no longer a question.

Vinny for Clarkson
- VANTEL

He's one of the few players I wouldn't trade VL for

Just swinging by to remind everyone that the Kings are my favorite hockey team of all time

He's one of the few players I wouldn't trade VL for
- PhillySportsGuy

Clarkson and Laich and Burrows and Clowe... yeah, there's definitely a market out there for Hartsy, lol.

Clarkson and Laich and Burrows and Clowe... yeah, there's definitely a market out there for Hartsy, lol.
- Tomahawk

Hartnell is so much better than those guys too.

In a few years, his deal may not look that bad either.

Just swinging by to remind everyone that the Kings are my favorite hockey team of all time
- Giroux_Is_God

Cheering for the Kings is exactly the same as cheering for the Flyers.

True story.

Hartnell is so much better than those guys too.

In a few years, his deal may not look that bad either.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd move his contract out now if possible... better a year too early than a year too late.

(tip of the hat to AllIn for that quote)