It's hilarious how they conveniently forget how the ref's incompetence is a major reason they are even still playing in the first place.
- JonnyHammerstix

get over it. it's the final. poop is NOT going to always go your way - like having to play against 2 backup goalies, never having half your team die from blocking shots to calls that favor the other side. it's hockey. deal with it.

as i said in jan's blob from yesterday, the 3rd goal didn't cost them the game. they still had the lead, and blew it, and blew the ot with 2 garbage pp's...yet you don't hear a single peep from them about those horrendous calls.

get over it. it's the final. poop is NOT going to always go your way - like having to play against 2 backup goalies, never having half your team die from blocking shots to calls that favor the other side. it's hockey. deal with it.

as i said in jan's blob from yesterday, the 3rd goal didn't cost them the game. they still had the lead, and blew it, and blew the ot with 2 garbage pp's...yet you don't hear a single peep from them about those horrendous calls.
- hammarby31

Exactly

get over it. it's the final. poop is NOT going to always go your way - like having to play against 2 backup goalies, never having half your team die from blocking shots to calls that favor the other side. it's hockey. deal with it.

as i said in jan's blob from yesterday, the 3rd goal didn't cost them the game. they still had the lead, and blew it, and blew the ot with 2 garbage pp's...yet you don't hear a single peep from them about those horrendous calls.
- hammarby31

(frank) em

Im not a basketball fan in the slightest but that was a tremendous game tonight

The more I think about it, I'd rather see the Flyers fill the LW hole with a familiar face.



Sign a good two way player or veteran top 9 guy to replace him on the third line, which is cheaper and more accessible in free agency, and have Read play on the top line with Giroux. I think he'd be great there. Good speed, capable of scoring 20 goals in a primarily defensive role.

Guys like Daniel Winnik, Ryan Jones or Blake Comeau can be cheaper options and keep the cap impact light, which would be good even if the Flyers move Lecavalier or others to create room.

Good blog about it here:

http://www.brokenbellphil...t-read-flyers-sniper.html

The more I think about it, I'd rather see the Flyers fill the LW hole with a familiar face.



Sign a good two way player or veteran top 9 guy to replace him on the third line, which is cheaper and more accessible in free agency, and have Read play on the top line with Giroux. I think he'd be great there. Good speed, capable of scoring 20 goals in a primarily defensive role.

Guys like Daniel Winnik, Ryan Jones or Blake Comeau can be cheaper options and keep the cap impact light, which would be good even if the Flyers move Lecavalier or others to create room.

Good blog about it here:

http://www.brokenbellphil...t-read-flyers-sniper.html
- Jsaquella

worth a shot. if the leafs are seriously shopping JVR I hope like hell Hexy tries to bring him back.

The more I think about it, I'd rather see the Flyers fill the LW hole with a familiar face.



Sign a good two way player or veteran top 9 guy to replace him on the third line, which is cheaper and more accessible in free agency, and have Read play on the top line with Giroux. I think he'd be great there. Good speed, capable of scoring 20 goals in a primarily defensive role.

Guys like Daniel Winnik, Ryan Jones or Blake Comeau can be cheaper options and keep the cap impact light, which would be good even if the Flyers move Lecavalier or others to create room.

Good blog about it here:

http://www.brokenbellphil...t-read-flyers-sniper.html
- Jsaquella

i've thought read could move to that spot for a long time. he's just a solid, versatile, 2-way player with speed and good hands. i don't believe berube's reason of lack of net presence/physical play with read on that line is a good one or makes sense.

i've thought read could move to that spot for a long time. he's just a solid, versatile, 2-way player with speed and good hands. i don't believe berube's reason of lack of net presence/physical play with read on that line is a good one or makes sense.
- hammarby31

How about this:

24-28-17
19-10-93

You give Schenn and Hartnell a dynamic guy that can drive possession and create offense in Voracek, and give Giroux a speedy winger that can score and in Simmonds, there's still enough grit and physicality on the line that it won't necessarily get dominated by bigger teams.

How about this:

24-28-17
19-10-93

You give Schenn and Hartnell a dynamic guy that can drive possession and create offense in Voracek, and give Giroux a speedy winger that can score and in Simmonds, there's still enough grit and physicality on the line that it won't necessarily get dominated by bigger teams.
- Jsaquella

Too many righties for my liking

Too many righties for my liking
- wilsonecho91

That's the biggest flaw, but it does make the team better at 5 on 5. They could also keep Hartnell on the line with Giroux, and shift Simmonds or Voracek to LW on second line(Simmonds sort of plays LW on PP).

I'm more worried about improving ES play than lefty righty balance, though

That's the biggest flaw, but it does make the team better at 5 on 5. They could also keep Hartnell on the line with Giroux, and shift Simmonds or Voracek to LW on second line(Simmonds sort of plays LW on PP).

I'm more worried about improving ES play than lefty righty balance, though
- Jsaquella

Worth a try.

How about this:

24-28-17
19-10-93

You give Schenn and Hartnell a dynamic guy that can drive possession and create offense in Voracek, and give Giroux a speedy winger that can score and in Simmonds, there's still enough grit and physicality on the line that it won't necessarily get dominated by bigger teams.
- Jsaquella

im still not 100% sold on Berube. I hope he is willing to experiment like this

That's the biggest flaw, but it does make the team better at 5 on 5. They could also keep Hartnell on the line with Giroux, and shift Simmonds or Voracek to LW on second line(Simmonds sort of plays LW on PP).

I'm more worried about improving ES play than lefty righty balance, though
- Jsaquella

I like that....

I'd also be inclined to see if Toronto would swap B Schenn for JVR or something of the sort. They want a center - and you brought up rebalancing a C for natural LW last night.

JVR-Giroux-Voracek
Hartsy-Couts-Read
Raffl-Laughts-Simmer

Good speed, good size throughout.

Too many righties for my liking
- wilsonecho91

we have righties?

I like that....

I'd also be inclined to see if Toronto would swap B Schenn for JVR or something of the sort. They want a center - and you brought up rebalancing a C for natural LW last night.

JVR-Giroux-Voracek
Hartsy-Couts-Read
Raffl-Laughts-Simmer

Good speed, good size throughout.
- moylander

Here we go again with the "ex-Flyers" crap

JvR'd be a good fit with G & Jake, though

How about this:

24-28-17
19-10-93

You give Schenn and Hartnell a dynamic guy that can drive possession and create offense in Voracek, and give Giroux a speedy winger that can score and in Simmonds, there's still enough grit and physicality on the line that it won't necessarily get dominated by bigger teams.
- Jsaquella

i'm willing to give that a look, but something about that line feels off. probably hartnell. i feel like he's an anchor with anyone right now...probably not accurate or fair, but i don't think he brings that much to the table anymore. still, i'm tired of seeing him on G's line, so i'd like to see another option.

that top line could be very interesting.

if we want schenn taking the next step, is hartnell the guy to help there?

im still not 100% sold on Berube. I hope he is willing to experiment like this
- Crimsoninja

I just look at the possession numbers and cringe. While Schenn & Simmonds were better away from Vinny, they were not exactly driving possession without him. Voracek was one of the best players in the NHL in terms of possession, you get him with Schenn and I could see the latter having a breakout season.

Here we go again with the "ex-Flyers" crap

JvR'd be a good fit with G & Jake, though
- Jsaquella

it infuriates me that 06-07 netted us luke schenn. i really wish they showed some patience with jvr.

i'm willing to give that a look, but something about that line feels off. probably hartnell. i feel like he's an anchor with anyone right now...probably not accurate or fair, but i don't think he brings that much to the table anymore. still, i'm tired of seeing him on G's line, so i'd like to see another option.

that top line could be very interesting.

if we want schenn taking the next step, is hartnell the guy to help there?
- hammarby31

I'm thinking more about the pairing of Schenn & Voracek...Hartnell is there to create traffic and let those two get shots through.

it infuriates me that 06-07 netted us luke schenn. i really wish they showed some patience with jvr.
- hammarby31

I really hate that trade. Not Schenn, but the value aspect of it...sold way too low on JvR

I'm thinking more about the pairing of Schenn & Voracek...Hartnell is there to create traffic and let those two get shots through.
- Jsaquella

watching one of those every-point-in-the-season youtube vids for Jake from the Jagr season im pretty sure i remember being stunned at how many times he and Brayden got each other points


edit: actually might have been the lockout season

watching one of those every-point-in-the-season youtube vids for Jake from the Jagr season im pretty sure i remember being stunned at how many times he and Brayden got each other points
- Crimsoninja

Yeah...Voracek is blossoming...he's going to be an elite winger for a long time. I absolutely love him, might be my favorite current Flyer.

Yeah...Voracek is blossoming...he's going to be an elite winger for a long time. I absolutely love him, might be my favorite current Flyer.
- Jsaquella

he's up there for me too.

turning into a leader in a lot of ways

him at 1:40 of this vid in Game 2... calming everyone down on the bench is great
http://www.youtube.com/wa...&feature=youtu.be&t=1m30s

then he goes on to get that late goal in the first and turn the momentum

I'm thinking more about the pairing of Schenn & Voracek...Hartnell is there to create traffic and let those two get shots through.
- Jsaquella

i like that pairing. i'm not sure hartnell creates much of anything.

I really hate that trade. Not Schenn, but the value aspect of it...sold way too low on JvR
- Jsaquella

yep. they should have more to show for that horrendous season.