If he did a good job, it would have been hard for the team to get rid of him. Even if they did, he would be able to find another job with NBC or another franchise.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yup, Pierre wanted his cake, to be able to eat it and then have some of Mario's cake, too

I wouldn't say the flyers are any more successful than the sharks have been since their inception
- Just5

that all depends on your definition of success. if winning the cup is the only measure, then i agree with you.

Tough to argue with that, actually.

But Pierre had to know that there was no (frank)ing way he was going to get a 7 year contract to be a front office guy.

Unless, however, they were discussing maybe compensation in the form of a piece of the team or something.
- johndewar

or more likely some other advisory role within the organization, like the flyers always seem to find for ex-coaches/gms.

Yup, Pierre wanted his cake, to be able to eat it and then have some of Mario's cake, too
- Jsaquella

but not without telling us where the cake was baked, by whom, where the baker went to culinary school, and who the baker's cakemates were at the time.

You also don't need a coach flipping out behind the bench all the time. Laviolette could flip out back there with the best of them and that approach will always run its course after awhile.

I like how candid Berube is about what the team does and doesn't do well. And as for the favoritism, I don't know about that. There doesn't seem to be sacred cows on this team. He doesn't save anyone in the press the way Lavvy would occasionally.

If Berube does have a weakness, it's for guys like our pal Rinaldo.
- johndewar

For the record before I respond, I do not feel Lecavalier is still a star level player. I believe he was brought in to provide secondary scoring and he can still bring this.

I love Brayden Schenn but there are many times when I felt that he should be benched or the fouth line because the penalties he takes can be really bad. I really don't feel he's held accountable. In fact, outside of age between Lecavalier and Schenn, I don't see a huge difference between the two players. Schenn is a better skater, Lecavalier bring slightly more offense with a much better shot. With this said, Lecavalier will get demoted for his shortcomings, Schenn will not.

I felt a guy like Simmonds has been one of our more hard working players all season. Not the most talented players but he works hard and often at times it pays off. He never sees chances on the top line with Giroux. Not even a sniff to see what he can do, and yet Raffl the rookie has a revolving door to that spot with Giroux. Read probably should get a look there too.

I think Berube has tunnel vision when it comes to a handful of ideas.

FWIW, and to steer discussion away from the dreaded Corsi conversation, Pierre McGuire talked about the Pens GM job on XM radio:

Basically, it boiled down to the Pens being unwilling to provide Pierre the security he had at NBC. He has a 7 year deal there and wasn't interested in leaving for a 2 or 3 year deal or to serve as a placeholder. He says Lemieux was very involved and that he respects his views, but that he(McGuire) needed more security to walk away from a sure thing at NBC
- Jsaquella

i love Pierre but this is such BS, imo

i think he'd jump up and shake hands yelling DEAL!! like kramer at the coffee lawsuit settlement if they offered him any type of deal whatsoever

i love Pierre but this is such BS, imo

i think he'd jump up and shake hands yelling DEAL!! like kramer at the coffee lawsuit settlement if they offered him any type of deal whatsoever
- Crimsoninja

I disagree. I'm sure he's well compensated at NBC and there he simply has to provide opinion without consequence. As a GM, his decisions mean winning or losing, employment or job hunting.

I disagree. I'm sure he's well compensated at NBC and there he simply has to provide opinion without consequence. As a GM, his decisions mean winning or losing, employment or job hunting.
- Jsaquella

perhaps

i just think he's dying to get back into the game in a meaningful position in the worst way.
there's no way he could honestly think a team would give him an extended longterm contract without him first proving himself

he's trying to explain his non hire by giving a fake its not you its me routine

I agree with this. Corsi only deals with shots right? Not sure how shots on net automatically means driving possession
- Just5

It's not shots on net. It's shots attempted. Whether they hit the net, miss the net, or are blocked.

Good thing nobody only used Corsi, huh? There's a full set of metrics that measures possession. Some people belittle that because they don't understand how the numbers work and dismissing it as "Corsi" is an easy dodge.

I also mentioned that one player drove possession(Voracek) and that putting him with a player who did a poor job in terms of possession (Brayden Schenn) could very likely benefit not only that player, but provide a more effective second line.

Somehow that turned into painting every player with a broad brush. But by all means, let's hope the Flyers continue to run out a second scoring line that gets outshot on a routine basis at even strength. That plan worked so well for Toronto.
- Jsaquella

The post that I replied to had to do with Corsi, and only Corsi. It was the only statistic mentioned in the entire post. And in my opinion, it was used out of context. As if every player on a team, or a line, should be, or has to be a driver of possession. They don't need to be. Every player brings different elements to the ice. Some players "drive" possession, and some don't. Doesn't make a player a bad player
The fundamental truth of Corsi is it is badly flawed as a stat. There is not a single Corsi number for any player in the entire league, that is independent of other players, game situations, opponents, etc. All of that comes into play. A large part of the date is false data. Which is why using Corsi for evaluate players is not a good idea. It's far more accurate as a team number.
Every post from certain sources on any player, includes possession numbers. It's clear that it is given huge weight to those opinions formed on players, when in my opinion, it shouldn't come close to the weight it is given when looking at individual players. If you're going to use Corsi to evaluate every player. Might as well use goals scored to evaluate every single player. It's the same thing.
And as far as the last comment. Nobody has stated that it's a good plan for a line to be outshot every night.