Correct, but 3 of those goalies have multiple cups.
- grand-magus

Of those 3, were the reasons they won really on them? Brodeur was the best of those 3 so he deserves more credit that the rest, but Barasso and Fuhr had some studs in front of them moreso than them being the biggest key (overall roster-wise)

Normally it would, but it wouldn't surprised me if it stuck at around 67-68 because of the Canadian dollar.

Better that way anyways, lower cap=lower floor=not having any justified reason to sign Moulson or Callahan to a 6 year deal
- Sabresfan-365

If Terry is willing to open the pocketbook like he did with Ehrhoff and pay him in signing bonuses to keep the cap hit low in later years I would not oppose the idea of Callahan. By the time were ready to play deep into the playoffs he could be a 3rd line guy perhaps playing with Girgensons playing an energy role and helping to shutdown opposing teams scoring lines. He was asked to play a 1st line role on a team he was with for 2 months got to give him the benefit of the doubt. Put Dustin brown on that lightning team and the same thing happens but since he is surrounded by talent in LA he is the captain that leads his team to the finals

If Terry is willing to open the pocketbook like he did with Ehrhoff and pay him in signing bonuses to keep the cap hit low in later years I would not oppose the idea of Callahan. By the time were ready to play deep into the playoffs he could be a 3rd line guy perhaps playing with Girgensons playing an energy role and helping to shutdown opposing teams scoring lines. He was asked to play a 1st line role on a team he was with for 2 months got to give him the benefit of the doubt. Put Dustin brown on that lightning team and the same thing happens but since he is surrounded by talent in LA he is the captain that leads his team to the finals
- Pegullaville

With what the Rangers have done since shipping Callahan out shows me that I don't want him playing for the Sabres. He obviously wasn't the leader he's been made out to be, IMO

If Terry is willing to open the pocketbook like he did with Ehrhoff and pay him in signing bonuses to keep the cap hit low in later years I would not oppose the idea of Callahan. By the time were ready to play deep into the playoffs he could be a 3rd line guy perhaps playing with Girgensons playing an energy role and helping to shutdown opposing teams scoring lines. He was asked to play a 1st line role on a team he was with for 2 months got to give him the benefit of the doubt. Put Dustin brown on that lightning team and the same thing happens but since he is surrounded by talent in LA he is the captain that leads his team to the finals
- Pegullaville

Here's the real question though. Take Dustin Brown off that team, and how much worse are they? I'm not sure the drop off is really that much. Look at how much the Rangers miss Callahan throughout the playoffs: very little if at all. The supposed value that a Callahan-type brings is overstated, especially with the way the game is played now.

Of those 3, were the reasons they won really on them? Brodeur was the best of those 3 so he deserves more credit that the rest, but Barasso and Fuhr had some studs in front of them moreso than them being the biggest key (overall roster-wise)
- stashu

Every Stanley Cup winning goalie has studs in front of them. That's not really a valid point.

All of those goalies, with the exception of Kolzig, knew what it took to win.

Every Stanley Cup winning goalie has studs in front of them. That's not really a valid point.

All of those goalies, with the exception of Kolzig, knew what it took to win.
- grand-magus

By that theory Crawford/Niemi = Brodeur/Barasso then

Of course not. Never draft a goalie in the first round and rarely draft one in the second or third. They are way too unpredictable.

With what the Rangers have done since shipping Callahan out shows me that I don't want him playing for the Sabres. He obviously wasn't the leader he's been made out to be, IMO
- stashu

Well St.Louis even at his age is still an elite talent. He has been able to spark Richards for the most part and the team has been able to rally around him in a time of need. They have played a 4 line game in the playoffs and Boyle has stepped up to be a big to be that glue factor.

By that theory Crawford/Niemi = Brodeur/Barasso then
- stashu

No. The discussion was on first round goalies. Everyone's ready to dismiss them outright, but that's not fair. If the Sabres like Demko, and he's there, they should take him. They have a gazillion picks in the next couple years, it isn't going to hurt them to go for a goalie.

Nice job Mike P.!!
- Irish 14

*bows*...thx, irish

No. The discussion was on first round goalies. Everyone's ready to dismiss them outright, but that's not fair. If the Sabres like Demko, and he's there, they should take him. They have a gazillion picks in the next couple years, it isn't going to hurt them to go for a goalie.
- grand-magus

At the same time, though, we're not talking about the Sabres having a pick in the later part of the 1st round already. If they already had, say, the 24th pick in the draft, it's a different dynamic. The question isn't: "should the Sabres draft a goaltender with their first round pick?" It's "should the Sabres give up assets to move up to draft a goaltender?" I don't think so, nor do I think they will.

Hackett should be traded..
Knapp in the ECHL
Lieuwen and Makarov split time in AHL
Ullmark stays in Europe
Peterson should be at UND through at least Junior year

After this season i can see Enroth or Neuvirth being dealt. That brings up whoever is better between Lieuwen or Makarov and opens a spot for either Knapp or Ulmark in the AHL..

if we keep Hacket then Makarov goes to the ECHL and fits his way back again.

i like the variety of choices we have which creates a lot of competition and fighting for that starting position
- IndianaSabresFan

idk, indy...for some reason I really like Hackett and think he's an nhl'er...at least...I like his old-school demeanor...will it work in today's nhl?...*shrugs*...probably moreso than enroth's size (or lack thereof)

no

move up to get another center/winger
- homiedclown

yup...totally agree, homie...if you're gonna move up, should be for a forward

At the same time, though, we're not talking about the Sabres having a pick in the later part of the 1st round already. If they already had, say, the 24th pick in the draft, it's a different dynamic. The question isn't: "should the Sabres draft a goaltender with their first round pick?" It's "should the Sabres give up assets to move up to draft a goaltender?" I don't think so, nor do I think they will.
- buffalofan19

If the goalie is someone they think is going to make a difference, they should absolutely give up a couple assets. They have so many prospects now as it is, and are going to add 15-18 more in the next two drafts. Giving up a couple seconds to move back into the first for someone they want - goalie included - should be , and I would guarantee is, in their plans.

Nice little article in the NY Times about Buffalo's NHL playoff ratings:

http://www.nytimes.com/20...abReward=relbias%3Ar&_r=1

I still question the premise that it is really "passion for the sport of hockey" as a whole versus simply just being a passion for the NHL, but it reminds me of what Colin Cowherd said a couple of years ago. Buffalo is the only television market in the United States where the NHL drives the ratings.
- buffalofan19

I think a lot of people forget this part...

"Buffalo is the 52nd-largest market in the United States, which means that a substantial rating does not mean a lot of people are watching. For Game 1 of the finals, for instance, Buffalo’s 8.5 rating equaled about 54,000 households; the game’s 10.1 rating in New York was the equivalent of 746,000 households"

If the goalie is someone they think is going to make a difference, they should absolutely give up a couple assets. They have so many prospects now as it is, and are going to add 15-18 more in the next two drafts. Giving up a couple seconds to move back into the first for someone they want - goalie included - should, and I would guarantee is, in their plans.
- grand-magus

I think they'll move up, they've been doing that recently as it is (last year and wasn't Myers picked up after trading back into the 1st?), but depending where they move to will be key. Like I posted yesterday, early 20s and it could be a sign it's Demko - to beat out Chicago/Pittsburgh. But if they move in the 10-20 range it's more likely for another forward.

I think a lot of people forget this part...

"Buffalo is the 52nd-largest market in the United States, which means that a substantial rating does not mean a lot of people are watching. For Game 1 of the finals, for instance, Buffalo’s 8.5 rating equaled about 54,000 households; the game’s 10.1 rating in New York was the equivalent of 746,000 households"
- ImThatGuy

I read that part too, but I didn't want to dismiss the accomplishment too much.

I think they'll move up, they've been doing that recently as it is (last year and wasn't Myers picked up after trading back into the 1st?), but depending where they move to will be key. Like I posted yesterday, early 20s and it could be a sign it's Demko - to beat out Chicago/Pittsburgh. But if they move in the 10-20 range it's more likely for another forward.
- stashu

And I agree wholeheartedly that if they move up that high, they should not draft Demko right there. There's just too many good forwards right there. If they moved up to, say, 10, and picked Demko over someone like Virtanen, I would be pissed.

No. The discussion was on first round goalies. Everyone's ready to dismiss them outright, but that's not fair. If the Sabres like Demko, and he's there, they should take him. They have a gazillion picks in the next couple years, it isn't going to hurt them to go for a goalie.
- grand-magus

Goalies are becoming similar to running backs. The difference outside of the top 5-10 in the league is incredibly slim.. Not to mention how many you find in the later rounds.

However, how can you blame a team for getting someone who is the best at a position of need in the draft?

And I agree wholeheartedly that if they move up that high, they should not draft Demko right there. There's just too many good forwards right there. If they moved up to, say, 10, and picked Demko over someone like Virtanen, I would be pissed.
- grand-magus

I don't see virtanen getting past 8 and could go as early as 4 to the flames

If they really wanted to draft a good prospect goalie they are better off hoping he drops to 31st overall. The alternative is to trade up (31st + another 2014 2nd minimum) and pick him.

You would be better off using both of those 2nds to pick the 2 best goalie prospects available and hope one of them make an impact then trade up and hope the best goalie prospect isn't a bust.

I think they'll move up, they've been doing that recently as it is (last year and wasn't Myers picked up after trading back into the 1st?), but depending where they move to will be key. Like I posted yesterday, early 20s and it could be a sign it's Demko - to beat out Chicago/Pittsburgh. But if they move in the 10-20 range it's more likely for another forward.
- stashu

myers was a trade up at the behest of devine...Lombardi sat at 12, Regier at 13...they wrote names on a napkin...if the names were the same, they'd keep the spot...if they were different, they'd switch...kings took colton teubert after trading the 12th to buffalo

Goalies are becoming similar to running backs. The difference outside of the top 5-10 in the league is incredibly slim.. Not to mention how many you find in the later rounds.

However, how can you blame a team for getting someone who is the best at a position of need in the draft?
- sbroads24

It's been Murray's philosophy while he was with Ottawa. They loved taking goalies earlier on in the draft. It might not be Demko but I be they take a goalie with one of those early picks.

Demko/Nedeljkovic/MacDonald, one of those three.

Goalies are becoming similar to running backs. The difference outside of the top 5-10 in the league is incredibly slim.. Not to mention how many you find in the later rounds.

However, how can you blame a team for getting someone who is the best at a position of need in the draft?
- sbroads24

There's a fine line between a great goalie and merely a good goalie, but that line can make the difference between winning and losing.

I guess we'll have to see what TM does. I'm trusting him until I'm given a reason not to. I don't think we'll know that verdict until 5 years from now.

Looking forward to this draft like no other draft in recent memory

I don't see virtanen getting past 8 and could go as early as 4 to the flames
- Pegullaville

Just an example