When he won the cup he was hardly challenged. 3 times in the series against New Jersey he faced less than 20 shots.

His regular season numbers outside of 1 season have been nothing spectacular, and this postseason the Kings are winning in spite of him.

He has some of the worst numbers of any goalie this post season. Yet they probably will win the cup.

He has been called the "best big game goalie in the NHL" Yet has had games where he lets in 3 goals on 7 shots in a game 7.
- sbroads24

What rates him so high is the fact that, more often than not, he plays better late in games than he does early.


The one thing Quick does do, however, and this is more of an intangible (unless someone figures out some sort of advanced stat to measure this), is for the most part, he does a good job of locking down when he needs to. He rarely lets in the "back-breaker". When the game is, in fact, on the line, you never see those kinds of numbers. Granted, you need to have a good team in front of you to make up for the goals allowed in the "non-crucial" times, but how often have you seen Quick give up "that goal" when it really hurts? It doesn't happen often. He doesn't seem to wear down. He tends to get stronger as a game goes along.

Well that doesn't work cause Quick doesn't have Kane score on him on a breakaway...oh wait
- Stripes77

"Kane owns Quick"

Again though, I think Quick is a great player, but I completely disagree he's the consensus #1 or #2 goalie in the NHL like he's made out to be

"Kane owns Quick"

Again though, I think Quick is a great player, but I completely disagree he's the consensus #1 or #2 goalie in the NHL like he's made out to be
- sbroads24

As been stated several times here its:

Lundqvist
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everyone else

The one thing Quick does do, however, and this is more of an intangible (unless someone figures out some sort of advanced stat to measure this), is for the most part, he does a good job of locking down when he needs to. He rarely lets in the "back-breaker". When the game is, in fact, on the line, you never see those kinds of numbers. Granted, you need to have a good team in front of you to make up for the goals allowed in the "non-crucial" times, but how often have you seen Quick give up "that goal" when it really hurts? It doesn't happen often. He doesn't seem to wear down. He tends to get stronger as a game goes along.
- buffalofan19

Last post season against the Blues 2x. 1 was a weak wrist shot with a 1:30 to go in the 3rd, and then the next game he passed the puck from behind the net to the opponent in OT.

To be honest, Quick has put his team in a position where they have to score 5 goals in a game 7 to win. Lundqvist on the other hand wins a game 1-0 to advance

Last post season against the Blues 2x. 1 was a weak wrist shot with a 1:30 to go in the 3rd, and then the next game he passed the puck from behind the net to the opponent in OT.

To be honest, Quick has put his team in a position where they have to score 5 goals in a game 7 to win. Lundqvist on the other hand wins a game 1-0 to advance
- sbroads24

I was a Miller supporter when he was here, it was time for him to leave though.

People get on Miller's case for letting in that soft goal late in a game after he practically stole the entire game before that. It was always "another soft goal late in a game" when there was no business Buffalo being in that game in the first place. Miller haters will say he couldn't lock a game down no matter what just like supporters (myself included) will say he was the reason they were in the game to begin with.

I was a Miller supporter when he was here, it was time for him to leave though.

People get on Miller's case for letting in that soft goal late in a game after he practically stole the entire game before that. It was always "another soft goal late in a game" when there was no business Buffalo being in that game in the first place. Miller haters will say he couldn't lock a game down no matter what just like supporters (myself included) will say he was the reason they were in the game to begin with.
- Stripes77

Good post stripes.

When he won the cup he was hardly challenged. 3 times in the series against New Jersey he faced less than 20 shots.

His regular season numbers outside of 1 season have been nothing spectacular, and this postseason the Kings are winning in spite of him.

He has some of the worst numbers of any goalie this post season. Yet they probably will win the cup.

He has been called the "best big game goalie in the NHL" Yet has had games where he lets in 3 goals on 7 shots in a game 7.
- sbroads24

fair enough...good points...to counter, but not to get into an argument, I'd take him over a goalie like tuuka rask who has much better numbers...

that said...I get what you're saying

Good post stripes.
- cabin

Thank you cabby, I know it won't stop the debate from happening ever again but I think that pretty much sums it up in a nut shell

Last post season against the Blues 2x. 1 was a weak wrist shot with a 1:30 to go in the 3rd, and then the next game he passed the puck from behind the net to the opponent in OT.

To be honest, Quick has put his team in a position where they have to score 5 goals in a game 7 to win. Lundqvist on the other hand wins a game 1-0 to advance
- sbroads24

Think it comes down to having a group up front that can score goals. Think we lost 27 games this season by 1 goal.

Think it comes down to having a group up front that can score goals. Think we lost 27 games this season by 1 goal.
- cabin

^^^^^this^^^^^

Think it comes down to having a group up front that can score goals. Think we lost 27 games this season by 1 goal.
- cabin

I know this was a long time ago, but in 2008 (the year after the fiasco in 2007), they had a group that could score goals. Miller still allowed that back-breaker, a lot down the stretch. Now, granted, he had a heavier workload, but I still see Quick as a better goaltender than Miller. Head and shoulders better? Not even close, but better nonetheless. Miller, like a lot of players that came through here in the past five years or so, have definitely been mentally fragile. I do think that it was largely a product of environment, but they will continue to have, and deserve, that reputation until they prove otherwise.

If the goalie is someone they think is going to make a difference, they should absolutely give up a couple assets. They have so many prospects now as it is, and are going to add 15-18 more in the next two drafts. Giving up a couple seconds to move back into the first for someone they want - goalie included - should be , and I would guarantee is, in their plans.
- grand-magus

they sucked with Miller

make what you want from that statement


the biggest thing the sabres have going for them is training camp with a coach not named rr and an off season with a gm not named darcy

I wonder who it was from:

http://blogs.buffalonews....1-overall-draft-pick.html

fair enough...good points...to counter, but not to get into an argument, I'd take him over a goalie like tuuka rask who has much better numbers...

that said...I get what you're saying
- Michael Pachla

Oh I'd take Quick no question. I do think he's a good (great at times) goalie. I just say over rated because he's thought of as the best in the game by some.

"Kane owns Quick"

Again though, I think Quick is a great player, but I completely disagree he's the consensus #1 or #2 goalie in the NHL like he's made out to be
- sbroads24

if Miller signs in the west, Kane will be the next crosby that owns Miller on a regular basis

Since he's being mentioned, where do you folks think Miller lands?

Think it comes down to having a group up front that can score goals. Think we lost 27 games this season by 1 goal.
- cabin

trade for AO

Think it comes down to having a group up front that can score goals. Think we lost 27 games this season by 1 goal.
- cabin

Absolutely. I'm fine with Miller being gone.

I just never doubted whether he had the ability to win

Since he's being mentioned, where do you folks think Miller lands?
- stashu

retires
wild on the cheap
nucks or jets if he goes for the big pay check

if Miller signs in the west, Kane will be the next crosby that owns Miller on a regular basis
- homiedclown

For one season, then Kane will be in the east........

Oh I'd take Quick no question. I do think he's a good (great at times) goalie. I just say over rated because he's thought of as the best in the game by some.
- sbroads24

That would be Kings fans

Since he's being mentioned, where do you folks think Miller lands?
- stashu

Van,CGY,SJ...

retires
wild on the cheap
nucks or jets if he goes for the big pay check
- homiedclown

I can't picture the Wild, not with what the vast majority of people say with Vanek going there. I don't see them being able to fit all these contracts.

Absolutely. I'm fine with Miller being gone.

I just never doubted whether he had the ability to win
- sbroads24

I never had the trust in him to get us a win. More often than not . the team HAD to score 4 goals min to win.

For one season, then Kane will be in the east........
- sbroads24