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rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
They need a couple of wingers and at least 1 dman.

If they fix that, they could become a pretty serious team.

- Pecafan Fan


they get seidenberg back and they're pretty serious already. they just need to get their heads fixed before they play the canadiens. or not.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
they get seidenberg back and they're pretty serious already. they just need to get their heads fixed before they play the canadiens. or not.
- rob121


Damn... I thought you guys were talking about the habs.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
in other news...

http://www.nydailynews.co...rnadoes-article-1.1823308
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
in other news...

http://www.nydailynews.co...rnadoes-article-1.1823308

- Pecafan Fan

Hopefully the shooter hasn't practiced much
clematrix
Joined: 01.08.2014

Jun 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
To be honest, very few teams in the East have much size. It's much of a skilled, speed game. And against the Bruins, who are a bigger team, Montreal was able to frustrate them by winning races to pucks. The problem is, you'll never win the cup that way. Boston was viewed as the only team from the East that could challenge whatever team came out of the West because those teams have size but they aren't painfully slow like the Bruins. And their goaltending is better. And they have far more structure. And more depth. Basically everything's better. The danger for Montreal is if the currently weak Eastern conference has a few teams that improve (Columbus, Detroit, both Boston and the Pens are going to make some changes), Montreal's going to have a tough time winning many playoff series when they don't have the size to create a lot of trouble in the offensive zone, and they don't have good enough defensive structure to limit chances going the other way. Even with great goaltending, eventually you'll run into a team that will just plant guys in front of your net. When that's the case it doesn't matter how good your goalie is, if he can't see the puck or if it gets deflected while going through traffic, there isn't much he can do.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
I remember when Welch struck out Reggie Jackson in 1978 World Series. He was a young phenom back then.
- hscesq



21 years old. that was a hell of a battle. heard the replay of the at bat on the mitch shmelnick show earlier. those were the days when ball was ball.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:45 PM ET
21 years old. that was a hell of a battle. heard the replay of the at bat on the mitch shmelnick show earlier. those were the days when ball was ball.
- rob121


May God have mercy of your soul.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:46 PM ET
Damn... I thought you guys were talking about the habs.
- Pecafan Fan








1 dman and a couple of wingers?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:46 PM ET
To be honest, very few teams in the East have much size. It's much of a skilled, speed game. And against the Bruins, who are a bigger team, Montreal was able to frustrate them by winning races to pucks. The problem is, you'll never win the cup that way. Boston was viewed as the only team from the East that could challenge whatever team came out of the West because those teams have size but they aren't painfully slow like the Bruins. And their goaltending is better. And they have far more structure. And more depth. Basically everything's better.

The danger for Montreal is if the currently weak Eastern conference has a few teams that improve (Columbus, Detroit, both Boston and the Pens are going to make some changes), Montreal's going to have a tough time winning many playoff series when they don't have the size to create a lot of trouble in the offensive zone, and they don't have good enough defensive structure to limit chances going the other way.

Even with great goaltending, eventually you'll run into a team that will just plant guys in front of your net. When that's the case it doesn't matter how good your goalie is, if he can't see the puck or if it gets deflected while going through traffic, there isn't much he can do.

- clematrix


Pretty much.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:47 PM ET




1 dman and a couple of wingers?

- rob121


Yeah, I think the bottom 6 is decent, they need to add two big wingers. And a dman to play with PK.
EssuieToutJeune
Nashville Predators
Location: See, what actually happens is just one of many probabilities and one of the biggest weaknessesblabla
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jun 10 @ 4:51 PM ET
Ok. Well I think you guys actually have a real good team that can compete for a Cup, just need a D man & probably one really good winger. But what do I know I think the Rangers are actually a decent team.
- mdw7413


I think the Rangers and the Habs are in a similar position at the F (no real cornerstone, but good depth and 3 lines that can produce) and G (BL will tell you that Price >>>>>>>>> Lundqvist but don't mind him) positions.

Even though it was a winnable match-up, the Rangers' good top-3 at D are what got them over the top in the Habs series IMO. The Habs had Subban and 5 3rd pair Ds (including game 110-Markov)
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
May God have mercy of your soul.
- Pecafan Fan




why? you don't like him?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:53 PM ET
why? you don't like him?
- rob121


Unbearable
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 10 @ 4:55 PM ET
That's way too many laughing emoticons for one day Rob, I'm worried about you.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
Yeah, I think the bottom 6 is decent, they need to add two big wingers. And a dman to play with PK.
- Pecafan Fan


if eller keeps playing like he did in the playoffs, if bourque plays like he did, if weise plays like he did, if prust can actually stay healthy and if bergevin can find a couple of vanek types not to mention a true #2 dman then you might be onto something.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 4:59 PM ET
if eller keeps playing like he did in the playoffs, if bourque plays like he did, if weise plays like he did, if prust can actually stay healthy and if bergevin can find a couple of vanek types not to mention a true #2 dman then you might be onto something.
- rob121


They need a "Seidenberg" type dman to play with Subban.

That alone would help. A lot.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 5:00 PM ET
Unbearable
- Pecafan Fan


but he's tony "the jabroni" marinara's mentor.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 5:01 PM ET
They need a "Seidenberg" type dman to play with Subban.

That alone would help. A lot.

- Pecafan Fan


agree. where do you get one of those?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 10 @ 5:02 PM ET
agree. where do you get one of those?
- rob121


Now, I never said it was possible for Bergevin to find those players.

I just listed what I think they need.
rob121
Montreal Canadiens
Location: montreal
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jun 10 @ 5:21 PM ET
That's way too many laughing emoticons for one day Rob, I'm worried about you.
- stinger67



I was just using up the quota that has been accumulating since 2006. hard to believe almost 8 years in this nut house. and to think I've contributed to mr. eklunds credibility. what a world. engels was a cheerleader back then. now he's an accomplished....cheerleader.


just playing engels. you know how much we all respect you. you are the best english habs blogger on this site. bar none!
AGalchenyuk27
Utah Hockey Club
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 10 @ 5:22 PM ET
Yup they were just lucky. Tired excuse

I agree with a few of your points but why come on here now and wax poetic about how bad they are. They have a young fast team. They were without Kreider and Mac was recovering from injury still against Flyers. Kreider returns and they win 3 of 4 to beat the Pens. The goalie situation in Montreal had little to do with the outcome, that's just a tired Canadian fan excuse, Tokarsky prob played better than Price would have. They came up against a team in the Kings that is really very good and have gotten some breaks against Rangers. They have not been outclassed at all. But Go ahead be negative about the team, if that's what you want. I know I really enjoyed this run. Beating Philly, the Fems and Montreal... that was fun. Wish we won the first three games in this series, but last I checked there is still a game tomorrow, and when the puck drops I am going to root every bit as hard as I have.

- tbreinold

mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 10 @ 5:44 PM ET
ALLO!
Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Jun 10 @ 6:08 PM ET
ALLO!
- mr.peanut


Hola
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 10 @ 6:10 PM ET
that's it?
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 10 @ 6:11 PM ET
that's it?
- dt99999

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