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Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:09 AM ET
Why would another team trade you a good third liner with would gets the job done and is cheaper than Gionta?

You are gonna get a guy who's not really playing up to expectations, a Travis Moen of sorts.

Unless Bergevin can pull another Diaz for Weise.

- Fredobbface


are you seriously suggesting that no team ever trades effective third-line players? teams trade them all the time, and it's usually a question of cap space or internal budgets.
i never said a player who makes less than Gionta. the player can make as much or even more. it's not about the $$ on Montreal's end that concerns me. i just think it's time to get a bit bigger up front, and this is one way to do it.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:10 AM ET
If they really want another midget they could sign PM Bouchard for cheap or give a shot to Andrighetto instead of Gionta...
- BashCH

I think he might be dead...
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:10 AM ET
If they really want another midget they could sign PM Bouchard for cheap or give a shot to Andrighetto instead of Gionta...
- BashCH

He'll get a look at camp but he's not gonna be plan A.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:10 AM ET
35+ contract.

Doubtful.

- stormeyAlterEgo


it's only one year. but i agree it's doubtful. i think Montreal is stuck with him.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:11 AM ET


Kings not overconfident, never underestimate the Rangers, the 4th is always the hardest, blablablablablabalba

Thank you sport journalists for our daily dose of clichés.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:12 AM ET
I don't really know who's available but it's always risky to hope the FA market will fill your voids.
- Fredobbface



I don't even think we need to add a regular in the bottom 6...

Prust, Weise, Bournival...either of those 3 can make the 3rd line. Then you have Moen and White who can fill in on the 4th.

I think we need to stop worrying about filling out the bottom 6 and start worrying about upgrading on the top 6.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:12 AM ET
Kings not overconfident, never underestimate the Rangers, the 4th is always the hardest, blablablablablabalba

Thank you sport journalists for our daily dose of clichés.

- Not_Yan

Cliché in sports? That's new
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:14 AM ET
I don't even think we need to add a regular in the bottom 6...

Prust, Weise, Bournival...either of those 3 can make the 3rd line. Then you have Moen and White who can fill in on the 3rd.

I think we need to stop worrying about filling out the bottom 6 and start worrying about upgrading on the top 6.

- TouenneTiiTree


So that's 5 guys for the bottom 6. They call in bottom 6 because they are usally 6 players.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:14 AM ET
Kings not overconfident, never underestimate the Rangers, the 4th is always the hardest, blablablablablabalba

Thank you sport journalists for our daily dose of clichés.

- Not_Yan

Don't poke the Rag!
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:14 AM ET
Cliché in sports? That's new
- Fredobbface


Things that should be eliminated from sports

- Player interviews
- National hymns
- ...

AGalchenyuk27
Dallas Stars
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:16 AM ET
If they really want another midget they could sign PM Bouchard for cheap or give a shot to Andrighetto instead of Gionta...
- BashCH

Andrighetto is in rumoured deal.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:16 AM ET
So that's 5 guys for the bottom 6. They call in bottom 6 because they are usally 6 players.
- Fredobbface



I didn't list the other guys, such as Eller or Plekanec, which ever will center the 3rd line...etc...

I was listing our 4th liners and mentioning that one of them can easily replace Gionta on he 3rd line...
EssuieToutJeune
Nashville Predators
Location: See, what actually happens is just one of many probabilities and one of the biggest weaknessesblabla
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:17 AM ET
Things that should be eliminated from sports

- Player interviews
- National hymns
- ...

- Not_Yan


That's really unclassy.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:17 AM ET
Things that should be eliminated from sports

- Player interviews
- National hymns
- ...

- Not_Yan

Nothing like the Canadian anthem to fire up a guy from Slovaquia.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:18 AM ET
I don't even think we need to add a regular in the bottom 6...

Prust, Weise, Bournival...either of those 3 can make the 3rd line. Then you have Moen and White who can fill in on the 3rd.

I think we need to stop worrying about filling out the bottom 6 and start worrying about upgrading on the top 6.

- TouenneTiiTree


no see that's the problem right there. those are great 8-9 minute 4th line players. but once you rely on those guys to be a third line and then start talking about Ryan White and Travis Moen, you're talking about a pretty crappy bottom 6, and lousy depth overall.

the need to acquire a first line winger is a given.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:18 AM ET
I didn't list the other guys, such as Eller or Plekanec, which ever will center the 3rd line...etc...

I was listing our 4th liners and mentioning that one of them can easily replace Gionta on he 3rd line...

- TouenneTiiTree

Bournival yes.


Weise maybe.

Prust no.

White no.

Moen no.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:18 AM ET
Things that should be eliminated from sports

- Player interviews
- National hymns
- ...

- Not_Yan



Yes please...I find that absurd...
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:20 AM ET
Bournival yes.


Weise maybe.

Prust no.

White no.

Moen no.

- Fredobbface


my thinking too. i see Weise as a fill in guy on the third line but he should not be counted on for anything more than a 4th line/PK role. Prust is much more effective in the fourth line role too.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:20 AM ET
Yes please...I find that absurd...
- TouenneTiiTree

GOD BLESS AMEEEEEEEERICA!
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:21 AM ET
Yes please...I find that absurd...
- TouenneTiiTree


i don't find them all that bothersome. the only thing that bugs me is that we have to hear two of them. just play one. game's in Canada? Canadian anthem. in the US? American.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:21 AM ET
Kings not overconfident, never underestimate the Rangers, the 4th is always the hardest, blablablablablabalba

Thank you sport journalists for our daily dose of clichés.

- Not_Yan


"Comme un animal blessé et cerné dans un coin"
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 11 @ 10:21 AM ET
my thinking too. i see Weise as a fill in guy on the third line but he should not be counted on for anything more than a 4th line/PK role. Prust is much more effective in the fourth line role too.
- Gary_B.

We have yet to see if he can play like that over 82 games.

There has to be reason he was in Vigneault and Tortorella's doghouse.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:21 AM ET
Nothing like the Canadian anthem to fire up a guy from Slovaquia.
- Fredobbface


in fairness, i don't think anthems are intended to fire up players.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
in fairness, i don't think anthems are intended to fire up players.
- Gary_B.

Haha.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
Bournival yes.


Weise maybe.

Prust no.

White no.

Moen no.

- Fredobbface


White and Moen, would fill the vacated spot on the 4th line...not the 3rd...

We have enough bottom 6 contributors...we need to package other pieces to upgrade the top 6... Maybe even package Eller and Plekanec for a winger. (Because Galchenyuk and DD should be our top 2 Centers).
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