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jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:59 PM ET
who might either want to buy out, that a team couldn't use for the cost of a late draft pick?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



Phanuef???

Lecavalier, Amac, Streit....
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:04 PM ET
Phanuef???

Lecavalier, Amac, Streit....

- jimmc7722



These players cant be a compliance buyout bc of contracts pro CBA
but can just be a buyout but a cap hit will occur. Plus Phaneuf & Vinny have trade value to teams w/tons of cap space
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:16 PM ET
These players cant be a compliance buyout bc of contracts pro CBA
but can just be a buyout but a cap hit will occur. Plus Phaneuf & Vinny have trade value to teams w/tons of cap space

- Ur Not Me



I know I was joking... wow... you are pretty high and mighty tonight.

Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
I know I was joking... wow... you are pretty high and mighty tonight.


- jimmc7722




XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:50 PM ET
I know I was joking... wow... you are pretty high and mighty tonight.


- jimmc7722



LOL

XxNYIxX
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

Jun 14 @ 11:22 PM ET
What do you guys think of the Sabres willing to trade for potential buyout candidates from teams that can't buy out there players because the don't have any more buyouts or can't afford to buy out the players in exchange for 1st round picks?
- jimmc7722

What would they give us for Bailey?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 14 @ 11:28 PM ET
I already said I would be their ref. Ive never been banned
- mighty13duck

I haven't been banned before either.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 14 @ 11:34 PM ET
I haven't been banned before either.
- keaner17

You want to ref for the rags?
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 14 @ 11:49 PM ET
I don't think they accepted my application....
- keaner17


Hope you started by writing to the right person (CaptEO). But also note he was busy, I think he was traveling for the game, so be patient.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 15 @ 1:24 AM ET
Hope you started by writing to the right person (CaptEO). But also note he was busy, I think he was traveling for the game, so be patient.
- stashu

Eh, no worries. I offered my services. It won't help pay my mortgage, so it won't bother me if I'm not needed. Just willing to help
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Jun 15 @ 3:24 AM ET
Phanuef???

Lecavalier, Amac, Streit....

- jimmc7722



I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. If the rangers wanted to get rid of Nashs contract, they would send Nash and a first to buffalo, and buffalo would buy him out? ... this is just an example. Obviously any team would take Nash, even with his shortcomings, if it added a first round pick.

Basically a good example... Bailey and a 2016 first to buffalo to buy him out?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 5:48 AM ET
Eh, no worries. I offered my services. It won't help pay my mortgage, so it won't bother me if I'm not needed. Just willing to help
- keaner17

So. You offer services as well?
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 15 @ 6:59 AM ET
Here's the million dollar question. When Dan Boyle says he's not going to sign with the isles what does Garth snow do to address the need for a pp quarterback. Whether anyone liked or hated AMAC, who takes over his 25 min a night?

Random question of the day: why does Garth snow keep trading for guys who aren't locked up? It's phucking embarrassing to have all these guys publically snub the isles. Why does this keep happening???

- kindlyrick



I believe the answer to this question is "anyone who is better", which can subsequently be shortened to "anyone". You have to remember one thing- which defenseman plays 25-30 minutes a night depends on which one the coach decides to put on the ice for that long. Capuano doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy feeling that he actually knows what he's doing in any regard, including that one.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 15 @ 7:11 AM ET
Yeah that's what snows recipe for vanek was, except he couldn't get that first rounder back.

My point was it makes an already crappy franchise look worse and adds to the perception of guys not wanting to play on the island when they continuously say publically no thanks.

- kindlyrick



I'm starting to really think Vanek was an idiot for not signing here, and as we go along, that is going to become more evident.....especially if Minnesota tells him to f**k off. There were really only certain things this team needed from a personnel standpoint- a couple of solid defensive defensemen, a goalie who doesn't suck, a forward to play on that line with JT and Okposo....maybe another winger who can score a little bit, although I think one of the guys from within will at least fill that spot. We're not really that far off, and Vanek filled one of those roles perfectly- when he went to Montreal, he really didn't fit the way he did here. I think his wife might be happier in Minnesota, but his career stats would be far better playing on JT's wing.
ziggy_skalica
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 15 @ 8:39 AM ET
I'm starting to really think Vanek was an idiot for not signing here, and as we go along, that is going to become more evident.....especially if Minnesota tells him to f**k off. There were really only certain things this team needed from a personnel standpoint- a couple of solid defensive defensemen, a goalie who doesn't suck, a forward to play on that line with JT and Okposo....maybe another winger who can score a little bit, although I think one of the guys from within will at least fill that spot. We're not really that far off, and Vanek filled one of those roles perfectly- when he went to Montreal, he really didn't fit the way he did here. I think his wife might be happier in Minnesota, but his career stats would be far better playing on JT's wing.
- dcb1


I think the islanders were and are one of the few teams that tolerate his lack of defensive game and willingness to pay him 50 mil.
Nolanders
New York Islanders
Location: Canada
Joined: 08.24.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:12 AM ET
I don't think Boyle is signing here....I think he wants to keep that offer on the table that Garth gave to negotiate with other teams...stall tactic is his plan right now. he knows what the answer is now but will sit in holding pattern IMO. Its the money that matters I'm thinking, why else would his agent say he wants to be on a contender and the next thing you here is rumors of TO being on his list...then again that's DD from TSN and he thinks he is part of their management team anyway...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 15 @ 10:37 AM ET
I don't think Boyle is signing here....I think he wants to keep that offer on the table that Garth gave to negotiate with other teams...stall tactic is his plan right now. he knows what the answer is now but will sit in holding pattern IMO. Its the money that matters I'm thinking, why else would his agent say he wants to be on a contender and the next thing you here is rumors of TO being on his list...then again that's DD from TSN and he thinks he is part of their management team anyway...
- Nolanders

That doesn't make any sense. We have his rights until July 1st. If we're not going to sign him we'll trade his rights before then. There's no leverage for him to use.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:40 AM ET
Imagine you are a free agent you can go anywhere... You would burn a year of that contract... 3-4-5 years to play in an arena that is substandard to most AHL arenas?

XxNYIxX

I dont see why Brooklyn is going to be such a huge selling point to free agents.. yes its a nicer arena to be in, then NVMC... but its not a "hockey arena", its not gonna get much national exposure on TV due to the way the inside looks during a game.. yes it will make the owner more money... thats about it.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


You realize in the span of 2 comments you completely contradicted yourself, in defending Garth.
Is it the arena or isn't it? You can't argue both ways.

I see a career in politics in your future.


jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:41 AM ET
Youre not a ref till you ban me for a week.
- Cptmjl


I'll get banned before you....you fluckety motherflucker.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:43 AM ET

- eichiefs9



And that wasn't even the worst dive of the playoffs!!!
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
Imagine you are a free agent you can go anywhere... You would burn a year of that contract... 3-4-5 years to play in an arena that is substandard to most AHL arenas?

XxNYIxX



You realize in the span of 2 comments you completely contradicted yourself, in defending Garth.
Is it the arena or isn't it? You can't argue both ways.

I see a career in politics in your future.




- jmo16


How is that contradicting myself???

Also.. how is it "defending" Garth?? (I know this would be a mortal sin to you)



XxNYIxX
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
Random question of the day: why does Garth snow keep trading for guys who aren't locked up? It's phucking embarrassing to have all these guys publically snub the isles. Why does this keep happening???
- kindlyrick

If he says no... we either go with Donovan/Viz/deHaan on the PP
Try to trade for or sign someone else.

25 a night....Again someone already on the team or someone we add

Because he's trying to upgrade the team

Because the NVMC is a SHlthole to anyone that plays there & the Islanders have a rich and proud history of sucking.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


maybe what he said? OR.................


Because Garth is not respected by many of the GM's, players or agents(who deal with the majority of his low-balling, penny-pinching contracts). FACT

Because we have (one of, if not) the worst head coach in the NHL, whose job security is a mystery that Columbo, Perry Mason, Angela Landsbury, Cagney & Lacey, Magnum P.I., Mike Hammer, Matlock, Simon & Simon, the guys from Riptide and the Mentalist collectively couldn't solve in a 12-part mini series. FACT. FACT.

Because, bottom line, he's a control freak who prefers his staff on puppet-strings who also sucks at what he does, with the exception(and here's lesson in consistency for ya xxNYIxx) of drafting and avoiding the media and following Wang's directive of not spending too much money. FACT. FACT. FACT.

I hope that's a more satisfactory answer for your question, kindlyrick.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
Random question of the day: why does Garth snow keep trading for guys who aren't locked up? It's phucking embarrassing to have all these guys publically snub the isles. Why does this keep happening???
- kindlyrick



maybe what he said? OR.................


Because Garth is not respected by many of the GM's, players or agents(who deal with the majority of his low-balling, penny-pinching contracts). FACT

Because we have (one of, if not) the worst head coach in the NHL, whose job security is a mystery that Columbo, Perry Mason, Angela Landsbury, Cagney & Lacey, Magnum P.I., Mike Hammer, Matlock, Simon & Simon, the guys from Riptide and the Mentalist collectively couldn't solve in a 12-part mini series. FACT. FACT.

Because, bottom line, he's a control freak who prefers his staff on puppet-strings who also sucks at what he does, with the exception(and here's lesson in consistency for ya xxNYIxx) of drafting and avoiding the media and following Wang's directive of not spending too much money. FACT. FACT. FACT.

I hope that's a more satisfactory answer for your question, kindlyrick.

- jmo16



except your "facts" are what you believe.. not facts at all.

XxNYIxX
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:10 AM ET
How is that contradicting myself???

Also.. how is it "defending" Garth?? (I know this would be a mortal sin to you)



XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



re-read the bolded parts.

first you say the arena is a sh!thole, a major reason why FA's won't sign, THEN you say you don't see how a new arena is going to make a difference in signing new FA's!!!???

con·tra·dic·tion
ˌkäntrəˈdikSHən/
noun
noun: contradiction; plural noun: contradictions

a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.
"the proposed new system suffers from a set of internal contradictions"
a person, thing, or situation in which inconsistent elements are present.
"the paradox of using force to overcome force is a real contradiction"
the statement of a position opposite to one already made.
"the second sentence appears to be in flat contradiction of the first"
synonyms: denial.

That about sums it up.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
except your "facts" are what you believe.. not facts at all.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



I could prove them all in a court of law.

Your theory/opinion of the Arena(sometimes) being the reason this team can't attract talent isn't as convincing.
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