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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
I know 2015 will be a great draft year, it's just that I felt they were close enough this year not to " take a huge step back"
I think iHextall won't make bad UFA moves, but I think he could pull off a great hockey trade. A trade that will address the biggest weakness on the team.

- 3flyerkids


I truly hope you are right.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
Yeah, it's a shallow pool, but like last summer, there will be value options. Better not to get fixated on just the top guys.

Fayne is definitely a really steady, underrated guy. Ranger's still got about 10-20% before he regains his pre-break form. Nikitin, Diaz and Redmond could be capable of making an impact.

- Tomahawk


They really need two guys. Someone able to take (at least) top-4 minutes, and another guy to pair with Luke Schenn on the 3rd pair - which is where I think guys like Nikitin, Diaz and Redmond fall (not sure which ones are more suited for the left side, since Luke is a RD).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:03 AM ET
I must be out of the loop. Who are these guys?
- MBFlyerfan

Pebbles, I guess, is Bellemare. PEBbles...

Parentau presumably is someone he wants to sign
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
Players evolve and grow and get better. You can look at a lot of players and say, "this is what they were before they got better". It's pretty obvious watching the playoffs that Stralman has grown into a solid top 4 defenseman. And again, what's the price, if the bidding wars of free agency drive the price to high, you pass. And look to other options. But it's something the Flyers should definitely explore.
- MJL



He's a system defender, much like Bryz was a system goalie. AV's been a godsend for him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
Players evolve and grow and get better. You can look at a lot of players and say, "this is what they were before they got better". It's pretty obvious watching the playoffs that Stralman has grown into a solid top 4 defenseman. And again, what's the price, if the bidding wars of free agency drive the price to high, you pass. And look to other options. But it's something the Flyers should definitely explore.
- MJL

This is a stral man's argument
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
Pebbles, I guess, is Bellemare. PEBbles...

Parentau presumably is someone he wants to sign

- Giroux_Is_God


I finally got the first one. I have no idea who Perronteau is.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:05 AM ET
I finally got the first one. I have no idea who Perronteau is.
- MBFlyerfan

Me neither.

Let's ask Regis where he went to college
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:05 AM ET
This is a stral man's argument
- Giroux_Is_God



JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
He's a system defender, much like Bryz was a system goalie. AV's been a godsend for him.
- Tomahawk


So much this. I want no part of Stralman.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:09 AM ET

- MBFlyerfan

I'm (frank)ing hilarious just admit it
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
Illegal, but...wow, what a hit from the front page.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:15 AM ET
Would have preferred Hjalmarsson or Rasmussen, but Bellemare's a pretty decent consolation prize.

I'm surprised they didn't go after Bud Holloway, too, considering how familiar Hexy is with him from his LA days.

- Tomahawk


What's the knock on Holloway? He was a pretty decent AHL player, and according to NHL13, he won't sign a 2-way contract.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 12 @ 10:15 AM ET
I must be out of the loop. Who are these guys?
- MBFlyerfan

Ok Perronteau means either Perron or Parenteau. Pebbles comes from the reddit comment thread on Bellemare's signing which derives Pebbles from PEB (Pierre-Eduard Bellemare)
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
What's the knock on Holloway? He was a pretty decent AHL player, and according to NHL13, he won't sign a 2-way contract.
- jmatchett383

What's his potential?

I just drafted a LW and D with the top 2 picks overall. 84 and 86 out of the draft respectably, both with 5 star green potential
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 12 @ 10:17 AM ET
Ok Perronteau means either Perron or Parenteau. Pebbles comes from the reddit comment thread on Bellemare's signing which derives Pebbles from PEB (Pierre-Eduard Bellemare)
- JAKEw1234

I want nothing to do with Perron and his stupid (frank)ing tinted visor. (frank)ing bag of poop.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:18 AM ET
Ok Perronteau means either Perron or Parenteau. Pebbles comes from the reddit comment thread on Bellemare's signing which derives Pebbles from PEB (Pierre-Eduard Bellemare)
- JAKEw1234



I see what you did there!
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 12 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ok Perronteau means either Perron or Parenteau. Pebbles comes from the reddit comment thread on Bellemare's signing which derives Pebbles from PEB (Pierre-Eduard Bellemare)
- JAKEw1234

So if Pebbles becomes Bellemare's nickname if we sign a new D-man is he BAM-BAM?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:20 AM ET
So if Pebbles becomes Bellemare's nickname if we sign a new D-man is he BAM-BAM?
- FlyersGrace

No, that's Grossmann.

Except it's BAMM-BAMM
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
What's the knock on Holloway? He was a pretty decent AHL player, and according to NHL13, he won't sign a 2-way contract.
- jmatchett383



No clue... he bailed on the Kings ultra-early to go overseas. Always struck me as a guy who would have an NHL career if he wanted it.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
So if Pebbles becomes Bellemare's nickname if we sign a new D-man is he BAM-BAM?
- FlyersGrace

Luke Schenn is already deserving of this name
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 12 @ 10:22 AM ET
I want nothing to do with Perron and his stupid (frank)ing tinted visor. (frank)ing bag of poop.
- jak521

I think he has some of the best hands in the league
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:23 AM ET
No, that's Grossmann.

Except it's BAMM-BAMM

- Giroux_Is_God


you are on a (frank)ing ROLL today!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
Players evolve and grow and get better. You can look at a lot of players and say, "this is what they were before they got better". It's pretty obvious watching the playoffs that Stralman has grown into a solid top 4 defenseman. And again, what's the price, if the bidding wars of free agency drive the price to high, you pass. And look to other options. But it's something the Flyers should definitely explore.
- MJL

I see the temptation but I think I would go after a player that provides more of a guarantee. A defenseman who's more legit. I'm still not sold on MacDonald. This isn't to say MacDonald is a bad player but we need a number one defenseman or a number two who can bridge the gap. Now we have a defense core that features MacDonald at 5 million, Coburn at 4.5 million, Streit at 5.25 million and both Grossmann and Schenn at 3.5 a peice. Does this not concern anyone?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
So what's this rumor about Kovalchuk wanting to come back and play for the Devils? Only way that would happen is if all 30 teams give their consent. Don't exactly see that happening...

And Laughton's nickname : LOL
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
I see the temptation but I think I would go after a player that provides more of a guarantee. A defenseman who's more legit. I'm still not sold on MacDonald. This isn't to say MacDonald isva bad player but we need a number defenseman or a number two who can bridge the gap. Now we have a defense core that features MacDonald at 5 million, Coburn at 4.5 million, Streit at 5.25 million and both Grossmann and Schenn at 3.5 a peice. Does this not concern anyone?
- SuperSchennBros


It tells me we have a defense full of #4's if you go by salary alone. So yes, its concerning.

Chris Pronger why have you forsaken us?
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