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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 12 @ 6:46 PM ET
JR had a few good seasons after leaving.
- Hawks82


He did, but I don't recall them being as good as his last few with the Hawks pre-knee injury.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 12 @ 6:47 PM ET
Thank you!!

That's what's confusing me, (like I stated earlier, it seems Wirtz is back), the way he bashed, & shipped off Roenick & Amonte, makes no sense.

- puckhead17


Entirely different..

Amonte wanted $6 mill + and Wirtz wanted him gone right away then signed an over the hill Gilmour for about the same.

Roenick like Belfour was guilty of blasphemy and that was a no-no with Bill Wirtz.

So they were gone.

Wirtz rewarded loyalty more than performance ....If you don't believe me look at the Hawks draft record for about 4 decades before Toews was drafted...Many scouts who had awful drafts were tenured....same with front office people.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 12 @ 6:48 PM ET
You do know there's this thing called a salary cap right? And you realize that this salary cap forces teams to prioritize their salary structure, and sometimes get rid of someone that would ideally be retained?

No one is suggesting shipping off Sharp for a bag of pucks. If he goes it has to be for a legit 2C.

- Ogilthorpe2


No I agree, I just thought when "Joel" put he, Toews & Kane out together, they made an awesome unit, maybe a top 5 line in the league.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 12 @ 6:50 PM ET
No I agree, I just thought when "Joel" put he, Toews & Kane out together, they made an awesome unit, maybe a top 5 line in the league.
- puckhead17


The only guy who ever sucked on a line with Toews and Kane was good ol' stone hands Stalberg
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 12 @ 6:50 PM ET
14.2 mil coming in

14.6 mil going out

depth going to be rounded out with cheaper guys like rasmussen, rundblad, and morin

itd be close, but totally doable with the cap rise

- FourFeathers773

You just traded 60 goals for 35. You have 3 guys in the line up that have played about 30 NHL games? The bottom 6 is even worse than it was this year. How does this make the Hawks better?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 12 @ 6:51 PM ET
Entirely different..

Amonte wanted $6 mill + and Wirtz wanted him gone right away then signed an over the hill Gilmour for about the same.

Roenick like Belfour was guilty of blasphemy and that was a no-no with Bill Wirtz.

So they were gone.

Wirtz rewarded loyalty more than performance ....If you don't believe me look at the Hawks draft record for about 4 decades before Toews was drafted...Many scouts who had awful drafts were tenured....same with front office people.

- Al


You are correct, (the Wirtz comparison is way off), sorry, I forgot how "extreme" he was.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 12 @ 6:55 PM ET
You just traded 60 goals for 35. You have 3 guys in the line up that have played about 30 NHL games? The bottom 6 is even worse than it was this year. How does this make the Hawks better?
- Elbows15


a line of Kane Staal Staal likely explodes in production

Saad gets two world class players to take off in production again like he did playing with toews and hossa before

The fourth line is a hustle line and the third line looks plenty fine and responsible with Kruger, smith, and well Versteeg (assuming he gets his poop together in the offseason


but hey, this is a complete pipedream remember?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 6:57 PM ET
Gagner for Bickell
- Iggysbff

You are working our side of the street again .

How would you feel if we went to the Leaf blogs and said Kesler for,Phanuef.

Back to your street,corner
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 6:58 PM ET
I think we've reached the troll point here....
- mohel


Time to break out the troll flowchart.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 7:00 PM ET
Just pray that Kesler doesn't score,the overtime winner for Anahein in game 7 against you guys.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 12 @ 7:02 PM ET
Just pray that Kesler doesn't score,the overtime winner for Anahein in game 7 against you guys.
- VANTEL

Ducks fan here says the Ducks are out too...not that any of us really knows jack
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 12 @ 7:03 PM ET
Just pray that Kesler doesn't score,the overtime winner for Anahein in game 7 against you guys.
- VANTEL


They won't get past the Canucks after Van gets that serious package in return.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 7:04 PM ET
They won't get past the Canucks after Van gets that serious package in return.
- mohel

I forgot about that.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 12 @ 7:06 PM ET
I forgot about that.
- VANTEL


To me the Kesler deal is different than with Lu because they can just decide to keep Kesler (kind of had to trade either Lu or Schneider). Do you think he's gone?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 7:10 PM ET
Time to break out the troll flowchart.
- Beaver-Warrior


There is never a bad time to bust that thing out...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 7:11 PM ET
To me the Kesler deal is different than with Lu because they can just decide to keep Kesler (kind of had to trade either Lu or Schneider). Do you think he's gone?
- mohel

I think he will be gone , but truthfully I know as much , or as little as everyone else here guessing.

Have to wait it out and see what happens.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 7:12 PM ET
To me the Kesler deal is different than with Lu because they can just decide to keep Kesler (kind of had to trade either Lu or Schneider). Do you think he's gone?
- mohel


Rene Levoie(sp?) said on radio today that he's gone for sure. That guy has broke a couple of Canuck trades lately(even though he's in Montreal ).
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 12 @ 7:15 PM ET
I think he will be gone , but truthfully I know as much , or as little as everyone else here guessing.

Have to wait it out and see what happens.

- VANTEL


Well, here we've got Sharp out of town and don't really know crap either. Waiting is the hardest part, eh?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 12 @ 7:16 PM ET
Rene Levoie(sp?) said on radio today that he's gone for sure. That guy has broke a couple of Canuck trades lately(even though he's in Montreal ).
- Nucker101


I know it's a different guy, but every time I see that name I think of the 136 year old guy who does the anthems for the Bruins.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
There is never a bad time to bust that thing out...
- EKolb13

Truly. Just think, 17 whole days of nothingness till Free agency begins.


The Hawks need to trade Hammer ASAP, the bum keeps getting in the way of shots.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 7:22 PM ET
Truly. Just think, 17 whole days of nothingness till Free agency begins.



- Beaver-WarriorThe Hawks need to trade Hammer ASAP, the bum keeps getting in the way of shots.


15 days until the draft...
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 12 @ 7:24 PM ET
Sharp, Bickell, Leddy, Shaw, and a 1st

for

E. Staal and J.Staal

thank you and goodnight



Toews Hossa Saad
E.Staal Kane J.Staal
Kruger Smith Versteeg
Rasmussen Morin Bollig

Seabrook Keith
Oduya Hammer
Rundblad Rozsival

I would just mess my shorts over that

- FourFeathers773

Pretty sure the Hawk capologist would be messing his.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 12 @ 7:25 PM ET
Truly. Just think, 17 whole days of nothingness till Free agency begins.



- Beaver-WarriorThe Hawks need to trade Hammer ASAP, the bum keeps getting in the way of shots.


Totally! I hear Crow is pissed because it's messing with his save %.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Jun 12 @ 7:26 PM ET
Has anyone considered Frans Nielsen?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 12 @ 7:26 PM ET
Well, here we've got Sharp out of town and don't really know crap either. Waiting is the hardest part, eh?
- mohel


I think I have the start of a song.
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