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SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jun 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
Man I have a 3-way deal that would clear close to 10 million in cap

To Chicago
Kessler @50% retained

To Vancouver
TT
Bickell
2014 1st Round Pick Chicago
2015 1st Round Pick Calgary

To Calgary
Rozy
Rundblad
Hayes rights (worth a 2nd round pick by de facto)

That deal would save the Hawks nearly 10 million in cap space + get us Kesler at 2.75 per.

I don't want to deal TT but this deal is fair and the savings on the cap are amazing for the Hawks.

Of course Haws fans don't like the deal because they think Bickell is God and strangely enough would rather trade Sharp over Bickell.

- Tazer19


Calgary maybe have Burke but no way in hell the give up a 1st round possible lottery pick for Rozy, Rundblad and Hayes.
Tazer19
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2008

Jun 13 @ 8:34 PM ET
Calgary maybe have Burke but no way in hell the give up a 1st round possible lottery pick for Rozy, Rundblad and Hayes.
- SaskHawkFan


Calgary won't be a lottery team next season - at least not with good enough odds to move up to McDavid. Well unless they want to tank.


mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 8:35 PM ET
Man I have a 3-way deal that would clear close to 10 million in cap

To Chicago
Kessler @50% retained

To Vancouver
TT
Bickell
2014 1st Round Pick Chicago
2015 1st Round Pick Calgary

To Calgary
Rozy
Rundblad
Hayes rights (worth a 2nd round pick by de facto)

That deal would save the Hawks nearly 10 million in cap space + get us Kesler at 2.75 per.

I don't want to deal TT but this deal is fair and the savings on the cap are amazing for the Hawks.

Of course Haws fans don't like the deal because they think Bickell is God and strangely enough would rather trade Sharp over Bickell.

- Tazer19


Flames dont do this.



Chi Fla and Van....


Chi : Kesler


Fla : Sharp and Vancouvers #1 in 2015

Van: the #1 overall this year , Florida #2 in 2015 , chicago #1 2014
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:36 PM ET
Mike Richards would be a great 3c on this team....
- UnnamedSource


No.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
Calgary won't be a lottery team next season - at least not with good enough odds to move up to McDavid. Well unless they want to tank.
- Tazer19

Vancouver will not retain half of Kesler's deal. Will not happen. If they do, UnnamedSource will by 25 Duluth Trading Company T-Shirts.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
Really? who gets screwed in that deal? NO ONE.

I know many Hawks fans believe Bickell is worth Crosby and get enraged at the thought of trading him but realistically this deal works.

Personally I don't want to trade TT but for a poop load of cap space and Kesler at 2.75 it is well worth it.

- Tazer19



Its not that but why would Calgary do that ? Plus Rosy waive his ntc to go to Flames ?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
I wouldn't mind that just as long as 50% of his cap hit was retained - the same goes for Joe Thornton.

However I DON'T want to see Sharp traded - as a life long Hawks fan I would go bonkers if that happened.

The truth is the Hawks aren't looking for a second line center - they're looking for a first line center that will play on the second line.

Also, I don't want to see this team completely redesigned just because we need a 2nd line center.

As far as Kesler - I don't care what JJ says - the Hawks are VERY MUCH in on that sweepstakes.

- Tazer19


You make a lot of comments that imply that you have inside information - earlier you said the Hawks' offer for Kesler was the best offer - do you have inside information?

What are your sources?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
Really? who gets screwed in that deal? NO ONE.

I know many Hawks fans believe Bickell is worth Crosby and get enraged at the thought of trading him but realistically this deal works.

Personally I don't want to trade TT but for a poop load of cap space and Kesler at 2.75 it is well worth it.

- Tazer19

You are delusional.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 13 @ 8:39 PM ET
Vancouver will not retain half of Kesler's deal. Will not happen. If they do, UnnamedSource will by 25 Duluth Trading Company T-Shirts.
- Ogilthorpe2



HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:41 PM ET
Put the crack pipe down.

That stuff will kill you.

- Ogilthorpe2


If it generates these kind of meatball trades keep chuffing.
Tazer19
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2008

Jun 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
Flames dont do this.



Chi Fla and Van....


Chi : Kesler


Fla : Sharp and Vancouvers #1 in 2015

Van: the #1 overall this year , Florida #2 in 2015 , chicago #1 2014

- mrpaulish


Trading Sharp a PPG player is stupid - it makes no sense.

Sharp- Toews -Hossa
Saad - Kesler - Kane
xxxx - Shaw - Versteeg
xxxx - Kruger - Morin

You think ANY TEAM could matchup with that?

From a coaching perspective that would cause teams to seriously panic - even contenders.

With Kesler LA doesn't beat the Hawks.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
On TV - not online?
- StLBravesFan

Yes. Saw it on the rare rerun of NHL tonight from the previous day.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:46 PM ET
Trading Sharp a PPG player is stupid - it makes no sense.

Sharp- Toews -Hossa
Saad - Kesler - Kane
xxxx - Shaw - Versteeg
xxxx - Kruger - Morin

You think ANY TEAM could matchup with that?

From a coaching perspective that would cause teams to seriously panic - even contenders.

With Kesler LA doesn't beat the Hawks.

- Tazer19


All I know is I would be scared poopless to face Quad X on the 3rd and 4th line...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
Yes. Saw it on the rare rerun of NHL tonight from the previous day.
- Elbows15


I think $71.1 was the original - and still official - but not final number.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
Man I have a 3-way deal that would clear close to 10 million in cap

To Chicago
Kessler @50% retained

To Vancouver
TT
Bickell
2014 1st Round Pick Chicago
2015 1st Round Pick Calgary

To Calgary
Rozy
Rundblad
Hayes rights (worth a 2nd round pick by de facto)

That deal would save the Hawks nearly 10 million in cap space + get us Kesler at 2.75 per.

I don't want to deal TT but this deal is fair and the savings on the cap are amazing for the Hawks.

Of course Haws fans don't like the deal because they think Bickell is God and strangely enough would rather trade Sharp over Bickell.

- Tazer19


Just stop.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
All I know is I would be scared $hitless to face Quad X on the 3rd and 4th line...
- HawkintheD


But you can't keep double shifting him all game.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:49 PM ET
Just stop.
- Elbows15


Thanks Bows!
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:49 PM ET
Just stop.
- Elbows15


Is he a troll from the Hawks' board?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 13 @ 8:49 PM ET
You make a lot of comments that imply that you have inside information - earlier you said the Hawks' offer for Kesler was the best offer - do you have inside information?

What are your sources?

- StLBravesFan

moon men.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:50 PM ET
But you can't keep double shifting him all game.
- StLBravesFan


Guy has superhuman like stamina Sage.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:50 PM ET
Either that or a huge moron.
- Elbows15


I don't know - could be both.
Tazer19
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2008

Jun 13 @ 8:51 PM ET
You are delusional.
- Ogilthorpe2


I'm rational - As a matter of fact most trades that do happen the fans go "that is delusional."

Honestly I think too many kids play NHL on their PS3 in GM mode and actually believe they know what they're doing when talking about when it comes to the real NHL.


HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:52 PM ET
Either that or a huge moron.
- Elbows15


Just plain stupid is so far in his rearview...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:54 PM ET
If Quick is out of the crease - and Pouliot does try to avoid him - why is that a penalty?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
I'm rational - As a matter of fact most trades that do happen the fans go "that is delusional."

Honestly I think too many kids play NHL on their PS3 in GM mode and actually believe they know what they're doing when talking about when it comes to the real NHL.

- Tazer19

Again - what are your sources for your pronouncements?
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