- mayorofangrytown

That sentence moreso went with the prior sentence.

Reading comprehension needs work... said same kind, not same.
- Tomahawk

Point stands. Parenteau is the kind of player that scores at nearly a point a game pace in the NHL. You don't build a roster by employing the same "kind" of players. You build a roster with players that can play and produce at the NHL level. The AHL is full of the same "kind" of player that are in the NHL. But they can't produce at the NHL level.

Bruins say that Shawn Thornton will not be offered a new deal and Dallas says that Ray Whitney, Tim Thomas and Vern Fiddler will all be free agents. They reportedly made an offer to Fiddler, but he opted to test the waters
- Jsaquella

would like to see him picked up Montreal, just for the laffs

Solid, yes. He's 31 and not sure he fills our needs precisely... those are my reservations.

I'd like somebody a bit quicker, a bit heavier, more of a finisher.
- Tomahawk

True, he's not ideal, but I'd definitely prefer him for Grossmann over trading serious assets for a better player & bigger cap hit.

Solid, yes. He's 31 and not sure he fills our needs precisely... those are my reservations.

I'd like somebody a bit quicker, a bit heavier, a bit younger, more of a finisher.
- Tomahawk

If Schenn and Simmonds are going to stay on the 2nd line, then a playmaker such as Parenteau is what is needed to balance it out, moreso then a finisher.

would like to see him picked up Montreal, just for the laffs
- Marc D

The Habs did, or are close to, re-signing Dale Wiese

True, he's not ideal, but I'd definitely prefer him for Grossmann over trading serious assets for a better player & bigger cap hit.
- Jsaquella

isn't his cap hit over $4M?

The Habs did, or are close to, re-signing Dale Wiese
- Jsaquella

perfect 4th line guy imo

isn't his cap hit over $4M?
- Marc D

Nope. Parenteau is at $4mm, 2 years left

perfect 4th line guy imo
- Marc D

He played really well for the Habs after coming over from the Canucks

If Schenn and Simmonds are going to stay on the 2nd line, then a playmaker such as Parenteau is what is needed to balance it out, moreso then a finisher.
- MJL

I would almost like to see if Voracek would work on that line since he seems to want to be a playmaker more then shoot. But then you would need a winger for Giroux and Hartnell

I would almost like to see if Voracek would work on that line since he seems to want to be a playmaker more then shoot. But then you would need a winger for Giroux and Hartnell
- J35Bacher

I think Voracek would be great there. But like you said, leaves a hole on the top line.

Ideally, you'd want to bring in somebody a bit faster/hardier than Parenteau. IMO, he and Akeson are essentially the same kind of player... might as well just stick with the cheaper in-house option.
- Tomahawk

I was under the impression that Parenteau was a speedy player with good hands, but I haven't seen him play that much personally.

It was several CBAs ago and things change but when the Flyers reacquired their 1st round picks in the Gratton deal they weren't allowed to use the picks in the coming years as compensation for free agent deals because they were no longer considered theirs by the league.
- mayorofangrytown

I did not know that. Now I'm uncertain about everything again.

I would almost like to see if Voracek would work on that line since he seems to want to be a playmaker more then shoot. But then you would need a winger for Giroux and Hartnell
- J35Bacher

Move Hartnell and Voracek to Schenn's line. Move Read to LW & put Simmonds on Giroux's right wing. Boom. Two lines capable of carrying play and providing good offensive production.

I would almost like to see if Voracek would work on that line since he seems to want to be a playmaker more then shoot. But then you would need a winger for Giroux and Hartnell
- J35Bacher

They'd definitely be better off re-examining everything at ES... stuff that "worked" in the past shouldn't be set in stone, like Read/Coots and G/Jake, because for those few instances of isolated chemistry, they were still collectively a mess at evens.

Move Hartnell and Voracek to Schenn's line. Move Read to LW & put Simmonds on Giroux's right wing. Boom. Two lines capable of carrying play and providing good offensive production.
- Jsaquella

I don't see this Matt Read to the top line as a good move. I think he does his role really well with Couturier and the minutes they get. I would maybe look at a player like Mason raymond. He has the wheels and skill and also could move up and down the lineup if needed.

I think Voracek would be great there. But like you said, leaves a hole on the top line.
- MJL

I would like something like this if possible.

Hartnell - Giroux - Mason Raymond
Simmonds - SChenn - Voracek
Raffl/Bellemore - Courtuier - Read
Raffl/Bellemore - Laughton - Alderson/Rinaldo or FA

Assuming Vinny is moved.

I was under the impression that Parenteau was a speedy player with good hands, but I haven't seen him play that much personally.
- JAKEw1234

He's handsy, but lacks feet to match... if he had wheels, he would have probably gotten his shot a lot sooner.

I don't see this Matt Read to the top line as a good move. I think he does his role really well with Couturier and the minutes they get. I would maybe look at a player like Mason raymond. He has the wheels and skill and also could move up and down the lineup if needed.
- J35Bacher

So you'd put Raymond, who scores 20 in a scoring line role, ahead of Read who scores 20 playing against tough competition in a shut down line role? Raymond has a bad habit of wearing down late in the season, too. I'm open to him for cheap, but in a depth role, not a top 6 one

Read has the wheels & skill, too...and he's signed to a nice, cap friendly deal. I'd rather find a good, solid two way third liner than pay bigger cash to a "scoring" line winger.

I'd do the deal mentioned for Parenteau, in part, because it's an asset for Grossmann.

Anyone know if Josh Rimer is credible. He just blogged that he hears Vinny would be open to going to the Panthers and WPG would do a Kane for Schenn swap. I don't know why but I would be ok with both these moves depending what came back on the Vinny swap. For those that want Couturier to get more offensive chances he could move to 2nd line center.
- J35Bacher

While I'm all for either of those moves, I'd like to hold onto one of either Vinny or Schenn to be our 2C.

So you'd put Raymond, who scores 20 in a scoring line role, ahead of Read who scores 20 playing against tough competition in a shut down line role? Raymond has a bad habit of wearing down late in the season, too. I'm open to him for cheap, but in a depth role, not a top 6 one

Read has the wheels & skill, too...and he's signed to a nice, cap friendly deal. I'd rather find a good, solid two way third liner than pay bigger cash to a "scoring" line winger.

I'd do the deal mentioned for Parenteau, in part, because it's an asset for Grossmann.
- Jsaquella

Yes. Read also goes against different d match ups as playing with the Giroux line he most likely will get the top d pair. I like his role where it is. Sometimes when you start to change roles and try to get more it doesn't work. like when Lavy wanted more from Couturier and he struggled then.

I don't see this Matt Read to the top line as a good move. I think he does his role really well with Couturier and the minutes they get. I would maybe look at a player like Mason raymond. He has the wheels and skill and also could move up and down the lineup if needed.
- J35Bacher

Read on the top line would be interesting. It'd be good to see how he can produce with that kind of extended opportunity. He's produced close to 50 in his current role, so if we could get a close to 60 point Matt Read, it'd be very nice. It'd also be much better cap balancing if he could prove effective in that role, as we could then just look for a bottom 6 forward to pay bottom 6 money instead of having to add another 4+ mil to the lineup.

- mayorofangrytown

Maybe he's a NASCAR fan?

While I'm all for either of those moves, I'd like to hold onto one of either Vinny or Schenn to be our 2C.
- jmatchett383

I'd like to keep Schenn, but he's probably the best trade chip to address the defense. I'd be fine with moving Couturier up. It'd be cheaper to sign a Dominic Moore or Brian Boyle to play 3rd line than it would be to keep Vinny & maybe cheaper than re-signing Schenn, and then you could give Laughton a shot at 3C against one of them.