Agreed. Bogosian has really fallen off. Now, if it were Trouba...
- jmatchett383

So what if it was Bogosian and Kane for Coburn and Schenn.

So what if it was Bogosian and Kane for Coburn and Schenn.
- J35Bacher

Oh God yes. Not even a second thought.

So what if it was Bogosian and Kane for Coburn and Schenn.
- J35Bacher

Yeah, three seconds flat. Kane G Jake...

Oh God yes. Not even a second thought.
- jmatchett383

Damn that actually sounds pretty good when you think about it.

Damn that actually sounds pretty good when you think about it.
- J35Bacher

Don't get me wrong, I like Coburn. A lot. And I like Schenn, too. But if it's gonna be for Kane and a bit of a wildcard in Bogo, then absolutely. But there's no way Winnipeg does that.

I think the slow start really hurts him. Some people voting will say "he couldn't even make the Canadian Olympic team," too.
- bodiva88

i realized im probably biased, but i just have a hard time seeing how crosby doesnt have the strongest case.

i realize the response of oh, thats what the art ross is for, but still. its been some time since there has been such a discrepancy between first place and the field in the scoring race.

then the other factors such as everyone else on the team being injury marred. the record in which he scores a point as opposed to being held off the scoresheet. (pretty much meant a loss). there were stretches when flanked by brian gibbons and with AHL guys bringing up the rear, he carried the team for long dominant stretches.

Was it his 6 assists in 44 NHL games that blew you away, or his 7 points in 24 AHL games last year?
- jmatchett383

It was more his ability to make tough decisions, move the puck under pressure, and play lock-down defense as a 22-yo on a terrible defensive team facing tough competition.

He's almost a carbon-copy of Coburn at the same age.

Don't get me wrong, I like Coburn. A lot. And I like Schenn, too. But if it's gonna be for Kane and a bit of a wildcard in Bogo, then absolutely. But there's no way Winnipeg does that.
- jmatchett383

Never know. I keep looking for a team to pull the next Scott Gomez trade.

So what if it was Bogosian and Kane for Coburn and Schenn.
- J35Bacher

id weep for days. and chevy should be canned.

Yeah, three seconds flat. Kane G Jake...
- FlyersSteve118

actually if you guys did get kane to be that sniper for G, id look hard at experimenting with allowing that addition to free jake up for his own line on the second.

i realized im probably biased, but i just have a hard time seeing how crosby doesnt have the strongest case.

i realize the response of oh, thats what the art ross is for, but still. its been some time since there has been such a discrepancy between first place and the field in the scoring race.

then the other factors such as everyone else on the team being injury marred. the record in which he scores a point as opposed to being held off the scoresheet. (pretty much meant a loss). there were stretches when flanked by brian gibbons and with AHL guys bringing up the rear, he carried the team for long dominant stretches.
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah, Crosby did have to do the majority of the heavy lifting this season. Probably his best case for the trophy, as Malkin et. al. were healthy for the other one.

It was more his ability to make tough decisions, move the puck under pressure, and play lock-down defense as a 22-yo on a terrible defensive team facing tough competition.

He's almost a carbon-copy of Coburn at the same age.
- Tomahawk

I would need to check, but I believe he was spotted in the top pairing as the season wound down.

Whether or not he "should" win the Hart, he won't.
- jmatchett383

my apologies. I feel sure claude giroux should be the front runner for winning the Hart Trophy. Of course I am biased.

It was more his ability to make tough decisions, move the puck under pressure, and play lock-down defense as a 22-yo on a terrible defensive team facing tough competition.

He's almost a carbon-copy of Coburn at the same age.
- Tomahawk

Wow. He sounds like the 2012-2013 version of Luke Schenn. Based on less than a 50-game sample.

Sorry, but outside of Schultz, I have little interest in anybody on their blueline.

I would need to check, but I believe he was spotted in the top pairing as the season wound down.
- PhiFaninEdm

So was the dude in Section 114, Row 6, Seat 9.

actually if you guys did get kane to be that sniper for G, id look hard at experimenting with allowing that addition to free jake up for his own line on the second.
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah you're right.

Kane G Simmonds
Harts Couts Jake

Sounds incredible.

Odds to win 2015 Stanley Cup already posted.

Flyers right in the middle of the pack at 28/1

Wow. He sounds like the 2012-2013 version of Luke Schenn. Based on less than a 50-game sample.

Sorry, but outside of Schultz, I have little interest in anybody on their blueline.
- jmatchett383

Lol, ok.

Odds to win 2015 Stanley Cup already posted.

Flyers right in the middle of the pack at 28/1
- PLindbergh31

Already!? I'd like so see how they change come pre-season.

Lol, ok.
- Tomahawk

Sorry, but it's like saying, "Hey, let's go fetch one of those big-shot star wingers from Florida." There just isn't anything there that interests me.

Already!? I'd like so see how they change come pre-season.
- Streit2ThePoint

57:1

Yeah you're right.

Kane G Simmonds
Harts Couts Jake

Sounds incredible.
- FlyersSteve118

thats ridiculous. hell, id tell harts to kick rocks, slide read up there. your bottom 6 will need to be addressed. but that top 6 is as deadly and balanced as they come.

Already!? I'd like so see how they change come pre-season.
- Streit2ThePoint

Yup. I figured they wouldn't be released until after the draft and free agency. They will change, probably not significantly.

Sorry, but it's like saying, "Hey, let's go fetch one of those big-shot star wingers from Florida." There just isn't anything there that interests me.
- jmatchett383

id take a flyer on huberdeau. at less than market value of course

Yeah, Crosby did have to do the majority of the heavy lifting this season. Probably his best case for the trophy, as Malkin et. al. were healthy for the other one.
- jmatchett383

and he was actually healthy himself for the season. which is something he really couldnt claim a lot.

i just dont see what metric, measurable, or comparison you can use to really flush him out.

of course, since it is solely a regular season based trophy.