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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Frank you Frankin Frankers, ON
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Jun 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
bang for buck tho?

when considering that... are they?

- Dozzer


Bolland's not at what he's asking for... at his current salary yes, he is.

Bozak is no question, even at current salary.

Holland's RFA - not like he has a lot of bargaining power, but could be close to $2M for 2-3 yrs.



Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Jun 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Which is a very sad statement in itself..
- bixll


i know

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
i know


- Dozzer



He better get off the glue this year, or Leafs Nation will tar and feather that boy.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
Bolland's not at what he's asking for... at his current salary yes, he is.

Bozak is no question, even at current salary.

Holland's RFA - not like he has a lot of bargaining power, but could be close to $2M for 2-3 yrs.

- Badge


Hollands a dark horse, he was killer for the Marlies in the playoffs, I think hes better suited for the 2nd line C, I reallly liked his game after he came back from injury, guys got laser of a wrist shot, hope he gets a permanent spot in the line up, even if its 4th line kid will work his way up
Dozzer
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Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
Bolland's not at what he's asking for... at his current salary yes, he is.

Bozak is no question, even at current salary.

Holland's RFA - not like he has a lot of bargaining power, but could be close to $2M for 2-3 yrs.

- Badge


agreed.. but if you resign bolland, keep kadri, keep bozak.. its time to trade holland while he still has value
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Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
why isnt it? Clarkson and Clowe are 3rd liners they got a brinks truck money
- PinkSock


Clarkson was 2nd line in Jersey, Clowe was mostly 2nd in SJ.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
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Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
Bolland's not at what he's asking for... at his current salary yes, he is.

Bozak is no question, even at current salary.

Holland's RFA - not like he has a lot of bargaining power, but could be close to $2M for 2-3 yrs.

- Badge



I would give Bolland 1 yr. At 3 mill, he has to prove he can be that guy again, if he ever was.
Dozzer
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Jun 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
He better get off the glue this year, or Leafs Nation will tar and feather that boy.
- bixll


is there a tar and feather provision in the CBA? ling long term IR or something?

cause i'll go start plucking chickens right now
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
agreed.. but if you resign bolland, keep kadri, keep bozak.. its time to trade holland while he still has value
- Dozzer

Rather trade Kadri and let Holland take his spot, I think Holland will be a better rounded player and Kadri will net a better return , not a big fan of Kadri
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Jun 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
Hollands a dark horse, he was killer for the Marlies in the playoffs, I think hes better suited for the 2nd line C, I reallly liked his game after he came back from injury, guys got laser of a wrist shot, hope he gets a permanent spot in the line up, even if its 4th line kid will work his way up
- PinkSock


3rd line I'm referring to is not a checking line.

Leafs need to wake up and get 3 scoring lines and a checking line. 4th line should be the shutdown line that plays 10-12 mins a game.

I don't see a place for both Holland and Kadri on this team, unless they are on the same line and one's on wing (which isn't a terrible idea either).

PinkSock
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Jun 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
Clarkson was 2nd line in Jersey, Clowe was mostly 2nd in SJ.
- Badge

was....and now with the money they make, what lines are they on? Memory lane dosnt count
Dozzer
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Jun 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
I would give Bolland 1 yr. At 3 mill, he has to prove he can be that guy again, if he ever was.
- bixll


someone will offer him more

the only problem
PinkSock
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Jun 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
3rd line I'm referring to is not a checking line.

Leafs need to wake up and get 3 scoring lines and a checking line. 4th line should be the shutdown line that plays 10-12 mins a game.

I don't see a place for both Holland and Kadri on this team, unless they are on the same line and one's on wing (which isn't a terrible idea either).

- Badge

I know, I was just saying Holland deserves a shot, no matter where they plug him in, hes gonna move up, thats all, and ya I agree about the 4th line, atleast have em out there for more than 2 shifts a game lol
PinkSock
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Jun 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
someone will offer him more

the only problem

- Dozzer

after the injury last year, and his age, why would he even consider a 1 yr deal?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
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Jun 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
someone will offer him more

the only problem

- Dozzer



I think that would be OK..
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
2 - 0 Germany over Portugal.
- bixll



WOWWWW no party in Toronto's little PORTUUUGALLL. Quiet in Toronto's Greek part of town too.
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Jun 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
was....and now with the money they make, what lines are they on? Memory lane dosnt count
- PinkSock


both will be 2nd line next year as well.
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Jun 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
after the injury last year, and his age, why would he even consider a 1 yr deal?
- PinkSock


exactly.

Dozzer
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Jun 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
Rather trade Kadri and let Holland take his spot, I think Holland will be a better rounded player and Kadri will net a better return , not a big fan of Kadri
- PinkSock


holland will have a more rounded game

kadri will produce more

what kind of line do you want? flash in the middle and substance on the wings? or substance in the middle and flash on the wings?

just make up your mind and start building the team
Dozzer
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Jun 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
after the injury last year, and his age, why would he even consider a 1 yr deal?
- PinkSock


market will dictate that

GMs may be leary to give him long term money with his injury history

he will end up going to whomever is willing to take the gamble.. thats my bet.
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Jun 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
I think that would be OK..
- bixll


it really does suck that he was hurt, because he started out to be exactly what we hoped he'd be.

and can't judge him on his return cause he wasn't 100%, clearly.

I really like his style of game and he's effective, even when not putting points, but just can't pay that guy $5M, especially when you know he is slotted for 3C.
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Jun 16 @ 1:30 PM ET
holland will have a more rounded game

kadri will produce more

what kind of line do you want? flash in the middle and substance on the wings? or substance in the middle and flash on the wings?

just make up your mind and start building the team

- Dozzer


1st line is like that, 2nd should be opposite. 3rd should be all a bit of both.

gotta have at least 1 physically strong C who can play top 2 though - which is why I think RoR is really a great fit for this team.

Trade Phaneuf for him and give him the C.



GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
holland will have a more rounded game

kadri will produce more

what kind of line do you want? flash in the middle and substance on the wings? or substance in the middle and flash on the wings?

just make up your mind and start building the team

- Dozzer


Wanna bulid the team right? Stay away from trading for old guys who will cost you good assets & fuk up your salary cap. It may make the Leafs temporarily successfull for a few seasos but it won't bring a cup to TO.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
3rd line I'm referring to is not a checking line.

Leafs need to wake up and get 3 scoring lines and a checking line. 4th line should be the shutdown line that plays 10-12 mins a game.

I don't see a place for both Holland and Kadri on this team, unless they are on the same line and one's on wing (which isn't a terrible idea either).

- Badge


so you've got a shut down line that's gonna play 10 mins/game? chances are the line they'll be tasked with shutting down will be playing about 20 minutes. a shut down line needs to play big minutes.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
1st line is like that, 2nd should be opposite. 3rd should be all a bit of both.

gotta have at least 1 physically strong C who can play top 2 though - which is why I think RoR is really a great fit for this team.

Trade Phaneuf for him and give him the C.

- Badge


I agree.. keep kadri lose Lupul and bring in strong two way wingers to play alongside Kadri
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