Doh, thanks.. I forgot to go on ancestry.com for this convo
- IceColdBeer

Been a well publicized fact for years . No need for a web search.

First, let me say that I am NOT picking on you, starting with you, etc., but I think we are throwing this word "generational" around a bit too loosely lately.


Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Is Stamkos one? Probably not.

Malkin? Probably not.

Kane? No.

Tavares? Nil (for all of us Futbol fans enjoying this World Cup immensely!).


Show me an Orr, Gretzky, Crosby, etc. and then we'll talk.
- grand-magus

You forgot Lemieux , maybe Lindros if not for the concussion issues.

You forgot Lemieux , maybe Lindros if not for the concussion issues.



- Maximum Signal

Agreed.

I just thought of the first three off the top of my head

First, let me say that I am NOT picking on you, starting with you, etc., but I think we are throwing this word "generational" around a bit too loosely lately.


Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Is Stamkos one? Probably not.

Malkin? Probably not.

Kane? No.

Tavares? Nil (for all of us Futbol fans enjoying this World Cup immensely!).


Show me an Orr, Gretzky, Crosby, etc. and then we'll talk.
- grand-magus

Miller?

You forgot Lemieux , maybe Lindros if not for the concussion issues.



- Maximum Signal

dare i add Hasek... he did things no one else would attempt as well.. like throwing his blocker at the capitals

- ImThatGuy

calm down francis

calm down francis
- IndianaSabresFan

Surely, you are not calling ME Francis, are you?!?

dare i add Hasek... he did things no one else would attempt as well.. like throwing his blocker at the capitals
- IndianaSabresFan

Ithink he is talking about skaters.

Goaltenders might look like , Turk Broda , Jacques Plante , Tretiak , Terry Sawchuck , Ken Dryden ,Dominic Hasek , Patrick Roy. Martin Brodeur

First, let me say that I am NOT picking on you, starting with you, etc., but I think we are throwing this word "generational" around a bit too loosely lately.


Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Is Stamkos one? Probably not.

Malkin? Probably not.

Kane? No.

Tavares? Nil (for all of us Futbol fans enjoying this World Cup immensely!).


Show me an Orr, Gretzky, Crosby, etc. and then we'll talk.
- grand-magus

No offense taken. I just feel when all is said and done Stamkos will be one of the best to ever lace them up. He has the stats to prove it in an otherwise downward trending scoring league.

No offense taken. I just feel when all is said and done Stamkos will be one of the best to ever lace them up. He has the stats to prove it in an otherwise downward trending scoring league.
- ImThatGuy

Time will certainly tell on that.

Per Ek, for what its worth

On Matt Moulson...

Really looks like he will return to Buffalo. Winnipeg has interest as well, but I keep hearing he wants to go back to Buffalo.

Per Ek, for what its worth

On Matt Moulson...

Really looks like he will return to Buffalo. Winnipeg has interest as well, but I keep hearing he wants to go back to Buffalo.
- Buffalo-Sabres

So he's not signing here.

Ithink he is talking about skaters.

Goaltenders might look like , Turk Broda , Jacques Plante , Tretiak , Terry Sawchuck , Ken Dryden ,Dominic Hasek , Patrick Roy. Martin Brodeur
- Maximum Signal

gotcha

that list looks good.. maybe we could add Essensa as well?

So he's not signing here.
- buffalofan19

it does not appear to be that way

So he's not signing here.
- buffalofan19

Yeah, um, no. Its funny it came up because I was just wondering what would happen with him. I think he's a quality player.

it does not appear to be that way
- IndianaSabresFan

I love Moulson... and he does fill a void that we need.

Yeah, um, no. Its funny it came up because I was just wondering what would happen with him. I think he's a quality player.
- Buffalo-Sabres

5 X $29MM

1 - 7
2 - 7
3 - 6
4 - 5
5 - 4

5 X $29MM

1 - 7
2 - 7
3 - 6
4 - 5
5 - 4
- ImThatGuy

I hope that's not the case, not because I'm against bringing Moulson back, but because the Sabres have no business taking on any more contracts longer than 3 years. In fact, 3 years still might be too long.

I hope that's not the case, not because I'm against bringing Moulson back, but because the Sabres have no business taking on any more contracts longer than 3 years. In fact, 3 years still might be too long.
- buffalofan19

3 years

7
6
5

Call it a day.

The Ottawa Senators forward Spezza refuses to accept a trade to any of the other six Canadian teams, as well as Nashville, Columbus, Florida and the Islanders, according to TSN's Darren Dreger.



We made the cut.

I hope that's not the case, not because I'm against bringing Moulson back, but because the Sabres have no business taking on any more contracts longer than 3 years. In fact, 3 years still might be too long.
- buffalofan19

Can I ask why is 3 years the limit? Moulson in 4 years is still going to be scoring goals.

If you need 2 extra years to fill a goal scoring winger need then you do so.

You can just not sign anyone. You need people here that are going to help this team get over the hump, not just kids coming in.

3 years

7
6
5

Call it a day.
- dadeadhead

I wouldn't mind bringing him back, he would have a good veteran presence.

3 years

7
6
5

Call it a day.
- dadeadhead

Moulson isn't taking a 3 year deal. Neither will any of the top forwards. Which is why I'll be pretty annoyed when he gets his 5-6 year 6 mil per year deal here.

Can I ask why is 3 years the limit? Moulson in 4 years is still going to be scoring goals.

If you need 2 extra years to fill a goal scoring winger need then you do so.

You can just not sign anyone. You need people here that are going to help this team get over the hump, not just kids coming in.
- ImThatGuy

3 years is when you want to have cap space to make the move to go from pretender to contender. No need to saddle yourself with high cap 4+ year contracts now.

First, let me say that I am NOT picking on you, starting with you, etc., but I think we are throwing this word "generational" around a bit too loosely lately.


Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Is Stamkos one? Probably not.

Malkin? Probably not.

Kane? No.

Tavares? Nil (for all of us Futbol fans enjoying this World Cup immensely!).


Show me an Orr, Gretzky, Crosby, etc. and then we'll talk.
- grand-magus

Based on the definition you gave above, I would have to argue that Kane fits it. Now, I'm not actually calling him a generational talent. Is he really freaking good? Yes. Generational? Probably what would be a notch below.

However, the things he does with the puck on the ice is just sick. Most other players would never think to attempt a lot of the stuff he does out there. So by your definition above, he would fit.