The Ottawa Senators forward Spezza refuses to accept a trade to any of the other six Canadian teams, as well as Nashville, Columbus, Florida and the Islanders, according to TSN's Darren Dreger.



We made the cut.
- dadeadhead

Wooooo! See world, we ain't that bad!


Notice the trend though, it seems a lot of guys blackball all the Canadian teams as a group.

Moulson isn't taking a 3 year deal. Neither will any of the top forwards. Which is why I'll be pretty annoyed when he gets his 5-6 year 6 mil per year deal here.
- sbroads24

Vanek might go the Hossa route. One year high salary deal, then take the multi year deal next offseason.

A 3 yr deal for Moulson still leaves him at 33 with an opportunity to still get paid a few years.

Vanek might go the Hossa route. One year high salary deal, then take the multi year deal next offseason.

A 3 yr deal for Moulson still leaves him at 33 with an opportunity to still get paid a few years.
- dadeadhead

IMO it's either take the short term prove yourself contract, and if Vanek doesn't go to Minny I could see, or it's only sing for 6 or 7 years and guarantee yourself a ton of money.

3 year deals make little sense to guys like Moulson. He could have an injury riddled season or 2 and lose out on millions long term.

Vanek might go the Hossa route. One year high salary deal, then take the multi year deal next offseason.

A 3 yr deal for Moulson still leaves him at 33 with an opportunity to still get paid a few years.
- dadeadhead

No chance Moulson takes 3 Yrs. one injury and its over. Players in his state are 99% of the time looking for a longer term "last payday" deal.

No chance Moulson takes 3 Yrs. one injury and its over. Players in his state are 99% of the time looking for a longer term "last payday" deal.
- ImThatGuy

Then just hope it isn't with Buffalo.

Then just hope it isn't with Buffalo.
- dadeadhead

Do you dislike the player or is it just the timing?

Then just hope it isn't with Buffalo.
- dadeadhead

I hope it is. IMO, there is no reason you cant have one guy making above $5MM on this team in its current state. A guy that fills a position of need and can score at a pretty good clip as well.

I will just disagree with you on this one.

Do you dislike the player or is it just the timing?
- Buffalo-Sabres

Don't want to see any player UFA signed longer than 3 yrs from Buffalo.

Only player you sign at this point for longer than 3yrs is a difference maker.

Don't want to see any player UFA signed longer than 3 yrs from Buffalo.

Only player you sign at this point for longer than 3yrs is a difference maker.
- dadeadhead

Wurd

I hope it is. IMO, there is no reason you cant have one guy making above $5MM on this team in its current state. A guy that fills a position of need and can score at a pretty good clip as well.

I will just disagree with you on this one.
- ImThatGuy

Well I did say 18 mil for 3 years. I see no need to go beyond 3 years for any current UFA.

The Ottawa Senators forward Spezza refuses to accept a trade to any of the other six Canadian teams, as well as Nashville, Columbus, Florida and the Islanders, according to TSN's Darren Dreger.



We made the cut.
- dadeadhead

Chicago is my darkhorse given Kane's "I want to play with a good center" demands.

Wurd
- Buffalo-Sabres

Leino clears waivers compliance buyout used. Per 550GR.

Chicago is my darkhorse given Kane's "I want to play with a good center" demands.
- buffalofan19

Chicago is my dark horse for Jumbo Joe if SJ moves him.

Based on the definition you gave above, I would have to argue that Kane fits it. Now, I'm not actually calling him a generational talent. Is he really freaking good? Yes. Generational? Probably what would be a notch below.

However, the things he does with the puck on the ice is just sick. Most other players would never think to attempt a lot of the stuff he does out there. So by your definition above, he would fit.
- HonkFortheGoose

Spot on. Kane is one of the more creative players with the puck for sure. And I would love to see him on the Sabres, and, right now, I can't think of anyone in the league that, if it was game seven in overtime (LA series not withstanding), I would want the puck on their stick more than PKane. He's clutch.

I guess it's too soon for me to call him generational.

(It wasn't my definition. I found it on Hockey's Future.)

Well I did say 18 mil for 3 years. I see no need to go beyond 3 years for any current UFA.
- dadeadhead

And I see no respectable UFA's signing for that short of time. You may be able to get the Bryan Boyles and Mike Rupps of the hockey world, but that's about it.

Leino clears waivers compliance buyout used. Per 550GR.
- Der Kaiser

Wird

And I see no respectable UFA's signing for that short of time. You may be able to get the Bryan Boyles and Mike Rupps of the hockey world, but that's about it.
- ImThatGuy

Then there's no reason to sign any of them.

Take the give us your unwanted high priced contracts and a 1st for little in return approach.

And I see no respectable UFA's signing for that short of time. You may be able to get the Bryan Boyles and Mike Rupps of the hockey world, but that's about it.
- ImThatGuy

Perfect, then sign 2 of them.

In 3 years Moulson will be slower, older and not as effective.

We will need our Jeff Carter, Marian Hossa caliber players then. I don't want to be saddled with guys like Moulson in our top 6 in 3-4 years

Don't want to see any player UFA signed longer than 3 yrs from Buffalo.

Only player you sign at this point for longer than 3yrs is a difference maker.
- dadeadhead

what if it were a younger player to a reasonable contract... lets say TEnnis for 3.5 to 4 per

what if it were a younger player to a reasonable contract... lets say TEnnis for 3.5 to 4 per
- IndianaSabresFan

A. not a UFA

B. He's already Buffalo property

C. I've already been on record as saying he will get a Hodgson type deal. 5-6 years at 4.5-5 mil.

Perfect, then sign 2 of them.

In 3 years Moulson will be slower, older and not as effective.

We will need our Jeff Carter, Marian Hossa caliber players then. I don't want to be saddled with guys like Moulson in our top 6 in 3-4 years
- sbroads24

That goes for every top UFA in this years crop(outside of maybe Stastny and Niskanen).

I'd have no problem moving Hoff and then going after Niskanen.

That goes for every top UFA in this years crop(outside of maybe Stastny and Niskanen).
I'd have no problem moving Hoff and then going after Niskanen.
- dadeadhead

Which is why I want none of the marquee names available.

75% of them end up being buy out candidates within 2 years.

Which is why I want none of the marquee names available.

75% of them end up being buy out candidates within 2 years.
- sbroads24

I'd be ok with them signing Niskanen to a 3+ year deal only if Hoff is moved.

Similar players, 5 yr age difference.

Spot on. Kane is one of the more creative players with the puck for sure. And I would love to see him on the Sabres, and, right now, I can't think of anyone in the league that, if it was game seven in overtime (LA series not withstanding), I would want the puck on their stick more than PKane. He's clutch.

I guess it's too soon for me to call him generational.

(It wasn't my definition. I found it on Hockey's Future.)
- grand-magus

I figured you actually got the definition from somewhere. And I agree that people like to throw those terms around a bit too loosely. "Elite" is another one that comes to mind.

I still remember when people had doubts that he would be a high end NHLer because of his size. Guess he proved them all wrong.

I figured you actually got the definition from somewhere. And I agree that people like to throw those terms around a bit too loosely. "Elite" is another one that comes to mind.

I still remember when people had doubts that he would be a high end NHLer because of his size. Guess he proved them all wrong.
- HonkFortheGoose

Miller is ELITE!!!