J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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I love doing that. I pretty much only drink micro brews but hate buying a case for $40-50 only to realize it's a "meh" beer - Streit2ThePoint
If it has an animal on it I drank it. |
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eayost
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Location: Into the Void, PA Joined: 04.14.2010
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I think only 1 dman from the draft made it to the NHL - JAKEw1234
I found 1 more for what it's worth:
#160 Andrew MacDonald
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Schenn still has trade value. Coburn is solid but expendable. Personally I cant see Schenn becoming much more than he is. - GOA88
I thnk you need to "wooo sobb"
By your assesment we need to trade the team, get prospects that might help or not, suck for picks, and then maybe if they turn out we can make playoffs.
So edmonton |
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Streit2ThePoint
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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If it has an animal on it I drank it. - J35Bacher
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FlyersGrace
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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If it has an animal on it I drank it. - J35Bacher
I am so glad you explained this earlier... |
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Streit2ThePoint
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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I thnk you need to "wooo sobb"
By your assesment we need to trade the team, get prospects that might help or not, suck for picks, and then maybe if they turn out we can make playoffs.
So edmonton - J35Bacher
Trade the entire team and staff for the Kings |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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So just be a playoff team and not win anything in the process anyways? Its getting old dude. - GOA88
No, continue to be a playoff team, and improve through a dedication to drafting and developing. Detroit does it, San Jose does it, we can do it. We have some very promising prospects, and we need to give them all the time in the world to develop and come into their games. We drafted Giroux with the 22nd pick. So we finished 2nd in our division the year that we drafted our elite captain. We made it to the finals using strong trading and free agent signings. We don't need to go into tank mode to be a contender. |
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GOA88
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 08.02.2013
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It's not that he's not all that great, it's that he shoulders responsibilities here that he's really not best suited for.
Coburn is the Hjalamarsson to your Keith and Seabrooke. The problem is we don't have a Keith or Seabrooke on this team. - mochoson
Exactly. So moves must be made in order to get it. |
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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: A medical emergency involving you. Joined: 08.05.2013
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I don't mind Guinness, but it's kind of like drinking a loaf of bread. - BulliesPhan87
it's good for you. put hair on your chest. |
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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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it's good for you. put hair on your chest. - -davies-
And it's a lower calorie option for those trying to stay at skating weight...
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If I'm the flyers. I am setting up my payroll, in particular the defensive payroll, in order to go all in on mark Staal next summer.
If you land Staal. Who I think is a legit #1 guy. Your 2015 d could potentially look like
Staal-macdonald
Coburn-streit
Gostisbehre- schenn - Just5
Mark Staal of the Rangers? He's not a legitimate #1. Not even close. |
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mochoson
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Exactly. So moves must be made in order to get it. - GOA88
No, not exactly.
All we've done is recognize that finding those players is what we need. The next step is actually doing it, which is not easy to do.
You don't trade players just for the sake of trading them. You try different things and do your due diligence, but you don't just trade a guy like Coburn because he's not good enough to shoulder the load.
The players we need simply aren't there right now in trades. So in the mean time, we will continue to draft well and plug holes through what trades we can make as well as FA.
I get what your saying though, we can't just keep handing out big contracts to FA's and assume they are going to fix our problems. No more Lecavlier kind of deals. |
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mochoson
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Mark Staal of the Rangers? He's not a legitimate #1. Not even close. - MJL
I agree, he is capable of playing on a top pairing though. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I agree, he is capable of playing on a top pairing though. - mochoson
He could if paired with a #1 for sure. And if he can stay healthy, he's a pretty dam good defensive defenseman. But he's not a #1. |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Shiner Bock has a nice flavor without the heaviness of Guiness. It was my big fall back in Texas and now that it's popular you can find it almost anyplace these days. I've just always preferred dark beers. - FlyersGrace
If I ever see it I'll give it a go, I'll try anything twice. |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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He could if paired with a #1 for sure. And if he can stay healthy, he's a pretty dam good defensive defenseman. But he's not a #1. - MJL
IMO, there aren't 30 "#1 defensemen" playing NHL hockey right now. It's why there so hard to find, because the team's that have them aren't about to give them up.
So until the Flyers draft and develop their own Pronger or Doughty or Chara, you do it by committee. I think a solid, top-4 committee here could certainly include Marc Staal, especially if Coburn sticks around. |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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it's good for you. put hair on your chest. - -davies-
does this only happen to the men who drink it, or...? |
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eayost
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Location: Into the Void, PA Joined: 04.14.2010
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No, continue to be a playoff team, and improve through a dedication to drafting and developing. Detroit does it, San Jose does it, we can do it. We have some very promising prospects, and we need to give them all the time in the world to develop and come into their games. We drafted Giroux with the 22nd pick. So we finished 2nd in our division the year that we drafted our elite captain. We made it to the finals using strong trading and free agent signings. We don't need to go into tank mode to be a contender. - JAKEw1234
I think playing in playoff games is important in developing a good team. I'd rather make the playoffs and lose in 7 games than finish 9th or 10th in the conference and get a few picks better in the draft |
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wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK Joined: 11.13.2007
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i'm bored. i don't support this idea, it's just for discussion -
would there be any interest in making B. Schenn part of a package for Spezza?
Giroux
Spezza
Couturier
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Streit2ThePoint
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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does this only happen to the men who drink it, or...? - BulliesPhan87
No my wife drinks it. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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IMO, there aren't 30 "#1 defensemen" playing NHL hockey right now. It's why there so hard to find, because the team's that have them aren't about to give them up.
So until the Flyers draft and develop their own Pronger or Doughty or Chara, you do it by committee. I think a solid, top-4 committee here could certainly include Marc Staal, especially if Coburn sticks around. - mochoson
I agree. The biggest thing the Flyers have to do, barring any personel upgrades, is get their team game straightened out. Play more consistently at 5 on 5. That along with the natural progression of the young players, in and of itself, would be a major upgrade for the team. |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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No my wife drinks it. - Streit2ThePoint
Does she shave afterwards, or are you guys just into that? Just curious, I don't judge. |
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mochoson
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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i'm bored. i don't support this idea, it's just for discussion -
would there be any interest in making B. Schenn part of a package for Spezza?
Giroux
Spezza
Couturier - wilsonecho91
Not even the slighest bit. Ditto Kesler. Give Couturier the 2nd line center spot and actually give the kid PP time.
If I'm trading Brayden Schenn anywhere, it's with Luke or Coburn for a legit, top pairing, mobile defender. Think Roman Josi or Oliver Ekman Larsson. |
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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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Not even the slighest bit. Ditto Kesler. Give Couturier the 2nd line center spot and actually give the kid PP time.
If I'm trading Brayden Schenn anywhere, it's with Luke or Coburn for a legit, top pairing, mobile defender. Think Roman Josi or Oliver Ekman Larsson. - mochoson
OEL |
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wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK Joined: 11.13.2007
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Not even the slighest bit. Ditto Kesler. Give Couturier the 2nd line center spot and actually give the kid PP time.
If I'm trading Brayden Schenn anywhere, it's with Luke or Coburn for a legit, top pairing, mobile defender. Think Roman Josi or Oliver Ekman Larsson. - mochoson
agreed |
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