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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
I really hope that Dougherty or McKeown drops to our second round pick some how.

I like Larkin / Milano / Barbashev / Goldobin / Honka at 17. (Maybe Kapanen/ Virtanen drop and I'd def take those two first.)

- FlyersSteve118

I will freak the F out if they take Larkin. NO MORE "PLAYS THE GAME LIKE MIKE RICHARDS" GUYS FFS
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Barbashev

But what I'm really praying for is that Ehlers drops like Shinkaruk to us.

- Tomahawk


That'd be dancing naked fat guy time.
lkeh73
Vancouver Canucks
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.29.2012

Jun 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
alex touch would be an awesome fit in philly
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
That'd be dancing naked fat guy time.
- Jsaquella



True, either way, I really hope they go with a forward at #17, at this point 3 of their top 4 prospects are D (Morin, Ghost, Hagg) while the cupboard is really thin at forward after Laughton.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
boy its hard to beleive we gave all that for pitkinan, where they hoping 1 of the top 3 fell to us?

not sure what happened to nash but the guy is a dog in the playoffs, useless
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 10:55 AM ET


True, either way, I really hope they go with a forward at #17, at this point 3 of their top 4 prospects are D (Morin, Ghost, Hagg) while the cupboard is really thin at forward after Laughton.

- BiggE

Yeah, I'm hoping they get themselves a fancy skilled winger in this draft.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
boy its hard to beleive we gave all that for pitkinan, where they hoping 1 of the top 3 fell to us?

not sure what happened to nash but the guy is a dog in the playoffs, useless

- mydoglicks


You wouldn't trade two 2nds and a guy like Raffl to move into the top-4 this year?

If Feds hadn't had such a good PO for them in '04, that might have gone down as one of the most lopsided trades in draft history.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
Nope, wears sandals. No thanks.
- jmatchett383


Yeah but he didn't have socks on so I will forgive the sandal transgression.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
hypothetical: What would it cost to get into Nick Ritchie territory? I know he's been rising up draft boards. Just seems like the kind of guy they want on G and Jakes wing.

Would 17 and Laughton get it done? It'd be fantasic if you package 17 and Hartnell and make that move.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
You wouldn't trade two 2nds and a guy like Raffl to move into the top-4 this year?

If Feds hadn't had such a good PO for them in '04, that might have gone down as one of the most lopsided trades in draft history.

- Tomahawk


I'd trade our first, second and Raffl to get into the top 4, but none of those teams are gonna take that.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
I'd trade our first, second and Raffl to get into the top 4, but none of those teams are gonna take that.
- BiggE


Now imagine not having to even give up a first.... that's how nuts Feaster was in '02... from 4 down to 34.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:20 AM ET


True, either way, I really hope they go with a forward at #17, at this point 3 of their top 4 prospects are D (Morin, Ghost, Hagg) while the cupboard is really thin at forward after Laughton.

- BiggE


But our roster is full of young forwards, and three defenseman who have never played in the NHL does not make it an organizational strength.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
But our roster is full of young forwards, and three defenseman who have never played in the NHL does not make it an organizational strength.
- aflyerpower8

Flyers organizational depth is worse off at LW than D in my opinion.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:29 AM ET
But our roster is full of young forwards, and three defenseman who have never played in the NHL does not make it an organizational strength.
- aflyerpower8


Good point, but when it comes to prospects, not roster players, but prospects, they are much deeper at D than anywhere else. I would rate our top prospects as:

1. Laughton C
2. Morin D
3. Ghost D
4. Hagg D
5. Stolarz G
6. Alt D
7. Cousins C/W
8. Alderson W
9. Lauridsen D
10 Leier W

1 goalie, 4 forwards and 5 dmen and, outside of Laughton, none of the forwards listed are projected to ever be more than 3rd liners at best. And even Laughton is most likely going to be a strong 3rd liner, who can maybe step up into the top 6 now and then. There is a real lack of highly skilled forwards on that list.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:29 AM ET
Flyers organizational depth is worse off at LW than D in my opinion.
- hereticpride


Agreed
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
Give me Honka or give me Kempe
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Agreed
- BiggE


But all centers are capable of playing left wing...
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 21 @ 12:29 PM ET
Off topic
But for those of you who were talking about Hope Solo yesterday...

http://m.espn.go.com/wire...ss/story?storyId=11115789[url]
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Agreed
- BiggE


The Flyers are simply tragic at LW -- no organization has everything, but there is tragedy on the left side at the moment
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
What are the expectations for Laughton by you the fans if he were to play a full season with the Flyers?

Third line center or fourth line center?

Will he score 20? Heck, are you confident he can score 10?

Will he be instantly inserted on the PK?

I only ask because if he can just simply step in, there is a certain level of role he'd have to fill. Roles do change over the course of a season. They can become bigger, small or just different. Brayden Schenn was a penalty killer early in his first season as a Flyer until he broke his foot blocking a shot. He hasn't really seen the PK since. I think he saw it once oe twice this year since breaking his foot.

I do understand Scott Laughton is a different case with a different expectation.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
Off topic
But for those of you who were talking about Hope Solo yesterday...

http://m.espn.go.com/wire...ss/story?storyId=11115789

- fecondo[url]

truculence
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
What are the expectations for Laughton by you the fans if he were to play a full season with the Flyers?

Third line center or fourth line center?

Will he score 20? Heck, are you confident he can score 10?

Will he be instantly inserted on the PK?

I only ask because if he can just simply step in, there is a certain level of role he'd have to fill. Rolesdo change over the course of a season. They can become bigger, small or just different. Brayden Schenn was a penalty killer early in his first season as a Flyer until he broke his foot blocking a shot. He hasn't really seen the PK since. I think he saw it once oe twice this year since breaking his foot.

I do understand Scott Laughton is a different case with a different expectation.

- SuperSchennBros

4th liner

See above answer

No, but I'm confident he'll score 10

Yes

I think Schenn doesn't kill penalties not because he broke his foot, but just simply speaking, other people came onto the team who were placed higher up on the pk depth chart, like Raffl and Hall



Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
What are the expectations for Laughton by you the fans if he were to play a full season with the Flyers?

Third line center or fourth line center?

Will he score 20? Heck, are you confident he can score 10?

Will he be instantly inserted on the PK?

I only ask because if he can just simply step in, there is a certain level of role he'd have to fill. Rolesdo change over the course of a season. They can become bigger, small or just different. Brayden Schenn was a penalty killer early in his first season as a Flyer until he broke his foot blocking a shot. He hasn't really seen the PK since. I think he saw it once oe twice this year since breaking his foot.

I do understand Scott Laughton is a different case with a different expectation.

- SuperSchennBros

4th line center, some PK time ~ 14 min a night

that would be a solid first year

I think with the French guy, Laughton and Raffl they have the makings of a very useful 4th line like you see on the top teams
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 21 @ 1:05 PM ET
Off topic
But for those of you who were talking about Hope Solo yesterday...

http://m.espn.go.com/wire...ss/story?storyId=11115789

- fecondo[url]

Alex Morgan is hotter than Hope.

I thought this right away. Everyone thought I was nuts.

Hope is a 7/10
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
truculence
- Marc D

Pugnacious
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