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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
Surely Vancouver could do better than this:

@Eklund: Trade Rumor: Reimer, Kadri and a pick for Kesler and prospect? http://t.co/4RxaVjvuXM
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
Surely Vancouver could do better than this:

@Eklund: Trade Rumor: Reimer, Kadri and a pick for Kesler and prospect? http://t.co/4RxaVjvuXM

- DarthKane


He might as well stay in Vancouver rather than going to Toronto.

mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
Surely Vancouver could do better than this:

@Eklund: Trade Rumor: Reimer, Kadri and a pick for Kesler and prospect? http://t.co/4RxaVjvuXM

- DarthKane



Kesler isnt going to waive to go to another poopty Canadian team
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:56 PM ET
Kesler to the Blackhawks has jumped to 1st place at 30% on the rumor chart
- mrpaulish


He also has the Hawks at 30% on Derrick Roy and Devin Setaguichi.

BearsnHawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: TX
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
Final Prediction :


TT , Leddy , a #1 this year and a #2 next year

For

Ryan Kesler.


Thats it. Last im.talking about trades till after the draft.

- mrpaulish


No, i think we give up too much there and glad one less person mentioning Kesler
BearsnHawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: TX
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
They don't want Leddy... nobody wants Leddy...

Think Saad or Hjalmarsson!!!


Good Article!!!


- jimmc7722


Neither of them will get moved, ever. Why would any1 trade those players for Kesler?
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Happens all the time - even with lotteries - even in Chicago - witness, Jerry Krause gutting the team after Jordan, insuring several 15/17 win seasons, to improve draft position and have cap space for the Grant Hills and Tracy McGradys who never came here.

Unfortunately, Krause couldn't draft either: Marcus Fizer, Chris Mihm, Dalibor Bagarich, Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler....

- StLBravesFan


I'm sorry, who did what now?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:00 PM ET
Which one of you clowns was at "The Tracks" in downtown Cary yesterday? I overheard a conversation that could only have been from someone who reads here regularly.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
Which one of you clowns was at "The Tracks" in downtown Cary yesterday? I overheard a conversation that could only have been from someone who reads here regularly.
- Ogilthorpe2


Wasn't me. My plate was filled with Pagan rituals and such yesterday.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
10m ago AL said on Twitter that the Ducks are In o Kesler and that the Ducks.were close to getting him at the deadline
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jun 22 @ 1:20 PM ET
Nick Ritchie should be a BEAST....

&

Did the Pens TANK to get Mario ? Looks like it. Great piece by TSN's Michael Farber http://www.tsn.ca/VideoHu...collection=72&show=385298

- philco28


There is an old Pittsburgh paper article I read yesterday where the head coach of that team admits he and the GM tried to lose, and questions if Eddie O. was trying to do the same to draft Ovechkin.

Let me see if I can find it.
http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/04088/292486.stm
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
Any net minders of note? We seen to have a lack of quality depth at this key position.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jun 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
BTW Wiz, great post! Thanks for all the work you do for knuckleheads like me.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Do you guys sign Brad Richards as an option for the 2C spot without having to deal assets?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
Do you guys sign Brad Richards as an option for the 2C spot without having to deal assets?
- eichiefs9



I've thought about that, one of the major considerations is the type of deal Richards would accept. If he accepts a cap friendly deal that requires little (ie Rozsival) or no assets to be moved then maybe.

Ideally Kesler is a much better 2C, there's no question of that. But Sharp would likely need to be moved to make the cap space. We also have to consider that the return for Sharp would be.

So the question becomes what is better, Kesler plus the return for Sharp or Richards and Sharp? It's almost impossible to answer without knowing the return for Sharp.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
I've thought about that, one of the major considerations is the type of deal Richards would accept. If he accepts a cap friendly deal that requires little (ie Rozsival) or no assets to be moved then maybe.

Ideally Kesler is a much better 2C, there's no question of that. But Sharp would likely need to be moved to make the cap space. We also have to consider that the return for Sharp would be.

So the question becomes what is better, Kesler plus the return for Sharp or Richards and Sharp? It's almost impossible to answer without knowing the return for Sharp.

- DarthKane

Very true. At this stage of his career I would have to think that he can't possibly be expecting top dollar. To come play for arguably the best team in the league and likely have another crack at the Cup he might sign a cap-friendly deal.

Kesler is no doubt the better option, but he'll (obviously) cost you. I think it could be an intriguing opportunity, but I suppose it would hinge on Sharp's market value.
InvisibleOrange
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Shermer, IL
Joined: 08.04.2011

Jun 22 @ 1:43 PM ET
Year after year, he hits on projected draft picks


That's a weird way to get information, but if it works....
Sundevil
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.24.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
I've thought about that, one of the major considerations is the type of deal Richards would accept. If he accepts a cap friendly deal that requires little (ie Rozsival) or no assets to be moved then maybe.

Ideally Kesler is a much better 2C, there's no question of that. But Sharp would likely need to be moved to make the cap space. We also have to consider that the return for Sharp would be.

So the question becomes what is better, Kesler plus the return for Sharp or Richards and Sharp? It's almost impossible to answer without knowing the return for Sharp.

- DarthKane


Acquiring Kesler would probably trigger 2 separate deals - Sharp to a contender to clear cap space, and the package going back to Van.
InvisibleOrange
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Shermer, IL
Joined: 08.04.2011

Jun 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
Surely Vancouver could do better than this:

@Eklund: Trade Rumor: Reimer, Kadri and a pick for Kesler and prospect? http://t.co/4RxaVjvuXM

- DarthKane



This is a trade I am 100% behind, simply because it allows for Phil Kesseler:



eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
This is a trade I am 100% behind, simply because it allows for Phil Kesseler:




- InvisibleOrange

mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
Do you guys sign Brad Richards as an option for the 2C spot without having to deal assets?
- eichiefs9



Hope not
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Nick Ritchie should be a BEAST....

&

Did the Pens TANK to get Mario ? Looks like it. Great piece by TSN's Michael Farber http://www.tsn.ca/VideoHu...collection=72&show=385298

- philco28

I remember Cleveland fans holding up signs that said "Lose one more for 7 foot 4" when Ralph Sampson was a senior in college. Honestly, I would be surprised if the Pens didn't avoid putting themselves in the position to win some games.
Morganskaner88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jun 22 @ 2:59 PM ET
This is a trade I am 100% behind, simply because it allows for Phil Kesseler:




- InvisibleOrange

That could be the most disturbing thing I've seen in a long time
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
Please please get a legitimate Center Stan......
yahoodi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:17 PM ET
I'm hoping the Hawks draft the Goalie from BC- Thatcher Demko?!!!?! Think so.

Anyway, Hawks could use a goalie in the system, he's easy to track good enough for me. Plus I don't think Julius Honka will be there for the Hawks.

I'l watch them once at Prospects camp ( If I'm in town) and then store their names away….. As long as the Hawks keep them coming…..I'm good.
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