Do you think it's riskier to get lowered return on Letang now or allow his movement clause to activate and see how his health pans out? I think the complications of the NMC and potential to really cement a reputation for chronic injury are a greater risk. This is from the perspective, naturally, that Letang has certainly got to be moved.
- Johnny Wrath

he's not gonna get any worse than the stroke and other injuies he had all year. nmc isn't that restrictive

Jets don't need d and after Markov ( mr injury ) getting 5.75 why would you want to?
- Brianandr1

I'm not sure you could know what the Jets think they need.

For the price and performance, Markov all day. Especially for Pittsburgh's needs.

I think you will come to find out that in this new CBA that Letang's contract will not look so bad. Look for Subban's deal to start with at least a 9 at the beginning.
- Ryan_Wilson

Subban is way better than Letang. Also, Montreal does not have two centers eating 8.7M each of cap space. And Montreal doesn't have a guy in the system who is a better PP option than Subban.

i got a bad feelin that the straw hasnt broke the camels back yet with fluery. they will give him 1 more year, and that will be one more year lost.

and for those of you that keep on talkin trade one of our upcomin first round pick. i say do not. we dont need this mentality of puttin all of our eggs in one basket because crosby and malkin are in their prime. did anyone see yager play this year. i think we have plenty of time with those 2. but i dont want to see this franchise go down in flames 2 years from now because we traded all of our pick away to get a skilled winger for 87 then he plays like he did this off season. what a waste that would be.

rubuttle?
- pensfan024

If your trading a 1st for a young winger who has already proven nhl success then why not. I said package a 1st in a deal for Kane because he's still very young, and has a reasonable cap hit that will look better as the years go on. If you're going to choose a winger with that late 1st round pick, why not just give it up for a young winger who has already shown he can produce at the nhl level

Subban is way better than Letang. Also, Montreal does not have two centers eating 8.7M each of cap space. And Montreal doesn't have a guy in the system who is a better PP option than Subban.
- Johnny Wrath

In the past year, sure. Letang has a larger sample size of being way better than last year.

So no potential takers in a Neal/Fleury package?

In the past year, sure. Letang has a larger sample size of being way better than last year.
- Ryan_Wilson

Career goals/game:
Letang: 0.130
Subban: 0.147


Points/game:
Letang:.547
Subban:.588

Letang: 15G/53 points in 93 playoff games.
Subban: 10G/30 points in 43 playoff games.

What else is Kris Letang giving Pittsburgh for the money, and which of the two teams would you say have been better over the career of each player?

you haven't offered one better option icluding miller. as soon as you do people will be all ears.
- ChrisMS

Miller at 6
Hiller at. 1.5
Reiner at 1.5
Brodeur at 2
Shall I continue

So no potential takers in a Neal/Fleury package?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think Neal would really have to focus to score 30 goals on an average line and a mid-level power play.

Fleury is the picture of the Penguins' stifled development and unmatched ability to broadcast the state of being rattled to the opponent.

I think they would yield more in separate transactions. Maybe Fleury really does play out the final year of his contract; who knows, if a team gets hot and their goalie goes down in January, we may get decent return on him as a pure rental.

Miller at 6
Hiller at. 1.5
Reiner at 1.5
Brodeur at 2
Shall I continue
- Brianandr1

Marty may not be a bad option since we know Pittsburgh is getting .900 goalteding anyway. I think also Marty would change the locker room quite a bit, as well as tell the young D what Neidermayer and Stevens used to do.

Plus, I mean, Brodeur in a Penguins sweater. It'd be better than John LeClair because Marty probably won't really suck. Same concept.

Miller at 6
Hiller at. 1.5
Reiner at 1.5
Brodeur at 2
Shall I continue
- Brianandr1

Brian, it's Reimer. Sorry to be the anal one but the spelling over the last four days has been pour.

Edit: yeah, that was on purpose.

So on weds teams can talk to ufas and rfas. . Anyone worried JR isn't going to talk to anyone and we lost out bc we don't ha e a coach nor any of our own ufas or rfas have been resigned or even talked to (figure we would here via twitter if talks are on going)

So on weds teams can talk to ufas and rfas. . Anyone worried JR isn't going to talk to anyone and we lost out bc we don't ha e a coach nor any of our own ufas or rfas have been resigned or even talked to (figure we would here via twitter if talks are on going)
- nh4442

I don't think Pittsburgh should be players in the UFA market at all this summer.

gibbons is the only bottom 6 besides sutter that earned a spot on the team this year. a bright spot in that pile of crap
- ChrisMS

And Goc and Stemps. I like Gibbons but I don't see the fit. Fourth line with other WBS call-ups as a protected, energy line? Ok. But I'd rather see bigger wingers.

I also couldn't resist the Field of Dreams reference. I think half on here actually got it.

Brian, it's Reimer. Sorry to be the anal one but the spelling over the last four days has been pour.

Edit: yeah, that was on purpose.
- Topshelf Mountain

Fair enough ... Reimer at 2 is better then fluery at 5 ...

So on weds teams can talk to ufas and rfas. . Anyone worried JR isn't going to talk to anyone and we lost out bc we don't ha e a coach nor any of our own ufas or rfas have been resigned or even talked to (figure we would here via twitter if talks are on going)
- nh4442

I find it hard to believe that the RFA's are being ignored or not talked to. With all the AGM's it's near impossible.

Fair enough ... Reimer at 2 is better then fluery at 5 ...
- Brianandr1

True.

I find it hard to believe that the RFA's are being ignored or not talked to. With all the AGM's it's near impossible.
- Topshelf Mountain

"I thought you were gonna send the RFA qualifying offers?!"

"I thought you were gonna send the RFA qualifying offers?!"
- Johnny Wrath

I got drunk and slept in!

"I thought you were gonna send the RFA qualifying offers?!"
- Johnny Wrath

Exactly with so many Gms who knows who's role it is to talk with the players

I think Neal would really have to focus to score 30 goals on an average line and a mid-level power play.

Fleury is the picture of the Penguins' stifled development and unmatched ability to broadcast the state of being rattled to the opponent.

I think they would yield more in separate transactions. Maybe Fleury really does play out the final year of his contract; who knows, if a team gets hot and their goalie goes down in January, we may get decent return on him as a pure rental.
- Johnny Wrath

Not to argue the point because I don't necessarily disagree on Neal. I just think he has more value than the light that we see him in. And I can picture other teams drooling over having him on a wing with "their superstar center". So I doubt he's on an average line wherever he goes. Nonetheless...maybe Botterill already has this all lined up but JR gave him the wrong phone number.

Miller at 6
Hiller at. 1.5
Reiner at 1.5
Brodeur at 2
Shall I continue
- Brianandr1

First off, your #s are way off. Miller made 6.25 last year. Why would he take less on the open market. Hiller made 4.5. Reimer will get a decent raise from his 1.8. The only one I can see at your number is Brodeur, and no thank you as a first option.

Miller at 6
Hiller at. 1.5
Reiner at 1.5
Brodeur at 2
Shall I continue
- Brianandr1

miller at six = worse

all your other prices are dream world.
try hiller at 4-5
reiner at 2.5-3
broduer is at best a back up

so yes please continue because that was an epic fail so far

First off, your #s are way off. Miller made 6.25 last year. Why would he take less on the open market. Hiller made 4.5. Reimer will get a decent raise from his 1.8. The only one I can see at your number is Brodeur, and no thank you as a first option.
- cap1681

Miller at 6.50 is better then fleury ... And get real who is giving hiller 4.5 ??? Reimer at 2.5 ... Where do we sign??? As opposed to 5 for fleury...

Ugg. Maybe so. Maybe we add something. Is Kane really THAT good though?

I still explore shopping Neal and Fleury together. WPG was just one team I thought would really be interested in the Flower.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Look at what Wpg is already paying their own crappy goalie.

One overpaid sh*tty goalie is enough.

They would have a harder time trying to dump Pavelec than we would unloading MAF even with his higher price tag.