bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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They'd better get that one right today. - Atomic Wedgie
He is the one guy I don't understand they did not put in while he was still alive. |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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They'd better get that one right today. - Atomic Wedgie
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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i get no respect  - Dozzer
Dani says she does, most of the time .. |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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He is the one guy I don't understand they did not put in while he was still alive. - bixll
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DoubleDown
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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whats not to like about guance? big PPG power forward?
has the size to be a success at the pro level.. the type of centres the leafs desperately need in the system actually - Dozzer
getting the 9th overall pick in the draft for a starting goalie is actually really good value. look at what LA got for Bernier. |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I ate a Salmon and 2 Lobsters this weekend (frank)ers, Don't be Jelly...  - bixll
Devoured a small army of seafood at Rodney's on Saturday night. I will join you in gloating. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Devoured a small army of seafood at Rodney's on Saturday night. I will join you in gloating. - The Law
Gota love it..
Lunch, leftovers.. |
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Dani says she does, most of the time ..  - bixll
respect me?
i'll have to watch for that |
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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getting the 9th overall pick in the draft for a starting goalie is actually really good value. look at what LA got for Bernier. - DoubleDown
oh agreed. horvat is a good one too
i just commented on a poster saying that the nuck cupboards are bare.. they arent.. there are some good players in there. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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oh agreed. horvat is a good one too
i just commented on a poster saying that the nuck cupboards are bare.. they arent.. there are some good players in there. - Dozzer
i think Gillis deserved to get canned but i thought way too much was made of the goalie situation. it was mismanaged yes but at the end of the day, he got good value for Schneider and unloaded the Luongo contract. they don't have a goalie right now but there are always goalies available in the summer. |
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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i think Gillis deserved to get canned but i thought way too much was made of the goalie situation. it was mismanaged yes but at the end of the day, he got good value for Schneider and unloaded the Luongo contract. they don't have a goalie right now but there are always goalies available in the summer. - DoubleDown
give us guance and they can have reimer
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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i think Gillis deserved to get canned but i thought way too much was made of the goalie situation. it was mismanaged yes but at the end of the day, he got good value for Schneider and unloaded the Luongo contract. they don't have a goalie right now but there are always goalies available in the summer. - DoubleDown
Torts was a disaster. |
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ILoveLamp
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.01.2011
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getting the 9th overall pick in the draft for a starting goalie is actually really good value. look at what LA got for Bernier. - DoubleDown
Difference is that Schneider was Vancouvers STARTING Goalie, not backup.
He played more than Lu and was the starter in their playoffs.
If LA traded Quick, than you can make a comparison.
In one year, Vancouver traded Corey Schneider AND Roberto Luongo. In return they got a 1 first rd pick (9th overall), Shawn Matthias, and Jacob Markstrom.
So for two starting goalies, they got a pick, a 3rd-4th liners, and a goalie prospect.
9th overall picks, starting from the year 2000. Brent Krahn, Tuomo Ruutu, Petr Taticek, Dion Phaneuf, Ladislav Smid, Brian Lee, James Sheppard, Logan Couture, Josh Bailey, Jared Cowen, Dylan McIlrath, Dougie Hamilton, Jacob Trouba.
How many of those players would you trade a starting goalie like Corey Schneider for? 1-3? so there's about a 15% chance they got value for him when trading a number 9.
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DoubleDown
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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give us guance and they can have reimer
 - Dozzer
burn would want the Canucks first as well or NO DEAL!!! |
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.HOHO.
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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burn would want the Canucks first as well or NO DEAL!!! - DoubleDown
(frank) me.. the leafs will be lucky to snag a 3rd for reimer at this point
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AGalchenyuk27
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Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , YT Joined: 02.05.2013
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Hasek is only sure HOf'er. |
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Fixed  - .HOHO.
stop dreaming.. nobody is taking on that contract for at least 3 or 4 more years
way to bonus laden.. |
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DoubleDown
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Difference is that Schneider was Vancouvers STARTING Goalie, not backup.
He played more than Lu and was the starter in their playoffs.
If LA traded Quick, than you can make a comparison.
In one year, Vancouver traded Corey Schneider AND Roberto Luongo. In return they got a 1 first rd pick (9th overall), Shawn Matthias, and Jacob Markstrom.
So for two starting goalies, they got a pick, a 3rd-4th liners, and a goalie prospect.
9th overall picks, starting from the year 2000. Brent Krahn, Tuomo Ruutu, Petr Taticek, Dion Phaneuf, Ladislav Smid, Brian Lee, James Sheppard, Logan Couture, Josh Bailey, Jared Cowen, Dylan McIlrath, Dougie Hamilton, Jacob Trouba.
How many of those players would you trade a starting goalie like Corey Schneider for? 1-3? so there's about a 15% chance they got value for him when trading a number 9. - ILoveLamp
OK but what is the market for goalies? you're talking as though goalies are being traded for blue chip prospects all around. they're not. getting a top-10 pick for a guy like Schneider (who had 55 career wins as a 27 yo at the time) is good value. like i said, i understand the argument AGAINST trading Schneider. but i think they got good value. and i think unloading Luongo, regardless of the fact that they dealt Schneider earlier, was the right thing to do.
i agree the situation was mismanaged, my only point was that it's not the epic train wreck most people make it out to be. |
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Deeps27
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 07.08.2007
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That would be Emma's Back Porch in Burlington on Wednesday evenings....not that I've ever been there..on a Wednesday night. - Woderwick
LOOOONG time ago was there...'99...can confirm target rich environment of older ladies on the prowl. Good times. |
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lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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our moms think we're special  - Dozzer
You're missing the correct emphasis.
You mean "special"... |
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big_dion
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Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH Joined: 08.23.2010
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OK but what is the market for goalies? you're talking as though goalies are being traded for blue chip prospects all around. they're not. getting a top-10 pick for a guy like Schneider (who had 55 career wins as a 27 yo at the time) is good value. like i said, i understand the argument AGAINST trading Schneider. but i think they got good value. and i think unloading Luongo, regardless of the fact that they dealt Schneider earlier, was the right thing to do.
i agree the situation was mismanaged, my only point was that it's not the epic train wreck most people make it out to be. - DoubleDown
im hoping leafs can toss reimer and franson in a package
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Hasek is only sure HOf'er. - AGalchenyuk27
ok?
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