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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
the Hartnell love on the day he is traded is good to see


- Marc D


Just wait until you see Umberger play. You'll be pining for Hartnell
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
I really love this deal. Umberger is superior to Hartnell in every facet of the game save maybe top-end speed.

I think he'll be rejuvenated here. He looked disinterested in Cbus.

- mochoson


WTF are you talking about?
Have you watched Umberger over the last few years?
Guy was scratched for the most important game of the BJ"s entire franchise history!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
What other potential CBO candidates can we trade first liners for? How about Giroux and Voracek for Briere and a 6th?
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Didn't see this coming.
- Nucker101

brutal deal
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 43s

This is a huge lift off #CBJ GM Kekalainen. Club was contemplating a compliance buyout on Umberger if they couldn't move him before draft.

WE JUST TRADED A 30 goal scorer for a player about to be bought out

- Winning


Take a deep breath
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Didn't see this coming.
- Nucker101


i don't think anyone (especially EK) didn't see this coming harsty wasn't even on the rumor chart
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Cant believe the amount of complaining I'm seeing after years of blaming Hartnell for this and that, bemoaning his contract and cap hit and such. Seriously, you know who you are. Absolute joke.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Bye Brayden Schenn.
- Flyers1218

What do you want for him?

Although Toronto has no interest, so don't think that I'm playing from a position of weakness here...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
WTF are you talking about?
Have you watched Umberger over the last few years?
Guy was scratched for the most important game of the BJ"s entire franchise history!

- Whiskey-Tango

It was just that he was playing in CB... He will turn it back on here in Philly.


** Heavy sarcasm
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
This is Gagne all over again.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Cant believe the amount of complaining I'm seeing after years of blaming Hartnell for this and that, bemoaning his contract and cap hit and such. Seriously, you know who you are. Absolute joke.
- hereticpride



yeah everyone pointed finger at hartsy after Rangers series....
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Broad Street Hockey ‏@BroadStHockey 25s

poop. RT @FriedgeHNIC: No salary retention for either team in CLB/PHI trade...clean break both ways





Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
What other potential CBO candidates can we trade first liners for? How about Giroux and Voracek for Briere and a 6th?
- jmatchett383

Any interest in Clarkson?

Pretty please?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
This has Hexy written all over it.. Defense first.
- jak521


Umberger was a healthy scratch on Columbus. I don't know why people seem to think he can slide right in and be a good 3rd line player. Flyers are, arguably, deeper at forward than Columbus too.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
What do you want for him?

Although Toronto has no interest, so don't think that I'm playing from a position of weakness here...

- Atomic Wedgie


Clarkson and a 5th round pick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
I really love this deal. Umberger is superior to Hartnell in every facet of the game save maybe top-end speed.

I think he'll be rejuvenated here. He looked disinterested in Cbus.

- mochoson



Kind of blown away by this, because I can't possibly see how Umberger is superior to Hartnell in every facet of the game.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 1m

No salary retention for either team in CLB/PHI trade...clean break both ways

Well, there went that hope.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
Take a deep breath
- funmaster18


And hold it for about 45 minutes.
Islesrus
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
no
- hereticpride

Denial. Stupid STUPID trade
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
Kind of blown away by this, because I can't possibly see how Umberger is superior to Hartnell in every facet of the game.
- MJL


Yeah, I think he had the names switched around.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
No Comcast money to play with?
- Tomahawk


I'm not really upset Hartnell is gone, but I would have preferred they bought him out instead of wasting time bringing Umberger back. I would rather have that money free to do other stuff, then waste it on Umberger.
tk71
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Baltimore, MD
Joined: 09.18.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
You went with "Dude"

The deal is shorter then Hartnells and allows the lineup to get a little more balanced. Umberger with Couturier and Read is solid third line, actually its a 2nd line as they play more minutes then Schenns line. Now if you move Vinny you can sign someone like Mason Raymond who I think is a solid fit with the Schenn on Giroux lines.

- J35Bacher


They need to move Schenn, I can't stand watching him waste 2nd line minutes.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
the only thing i see is that rj is more d sound and has a better set of wheels?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Clarkson and a 5th round pick
- jmatchett383

Wow, you drive a hard bargain.

But OK.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
I'm not really upset Hartnell is gone, but I would have preferred they bought him out instead of wasting time bringing Umberger back. I would rather have that money free to do other stuff, then waste it on Umberger.
- PLindbergh31


we can't buy hartsy or anyone out. we used our two. why don't people get that!
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