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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
What would you like from the Isles for ROR
- eichiefs9


I heard snowy is shopping the 5th for a 1st line LW. Wouldny be shocked if Roy and Snow are talking...wait did they like eachother when they played?
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
That is why the deal is made. In 3 years who is going to take Hartnell? No one, lets be honest he does have a cap friendly deal at 4.75 but the length was awful. In 3 years he will be an anchor eating up 4.75 mill. He is on the decline. If Umberger plays with Giroux, his numbers will likely rise. Hartnell did get a lot of his points on the PP from feeds by Giroux.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

maaddmike
Joined: 08.08.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Pat Burns, Hasek, Forsberg, Modano, Blake and Bill McCreary elected into the Hall of fame.
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
Pat Burns, Hasek, Forsberg, Modano, Blake and Bill McCreary elected into the Hall of fame.
- maaddmike


Jason...
maaddmike
Joined: 08.08.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
Jason...
- Rockhead_37


LOL. I figured I didn't need to use the first name on that one.
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
LOL. I figured I didn't need to use the first name on that one.
- maaddmike

it's a good list.... a few yrs too late for Burns though...

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
I heard snowy is shopping the 5th for a 1st line LW. Wouldny be shocked if Roy and Snow are talking...wait did they like eachother when they played?
- DDM-Coga

He's been completely open about shopping it. An quality defenseman or a LW for Tavares are on his list. I love O'Reilly, if Snow could ensure that he signs long term I'd fork over the 5th overall in an instant.
Senators2112
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jun 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
Are these podcasts always so funny? 10 mins in, not much but Ek scowling, technical issues, video quality is bad maybe because "Google is having issues today"...

Edit: Now Eklund broke his tab and one guy is so sweaty he is on his third shirt?

LOL
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
That is why the deal is made. In 3 years who is going to take Hartnell? No one, lets be honest he does have a cap friendly deal at 4.75 but the length was awful. In 3 years he will be an anchor eating up 4.75 mill. He is on the decline. If Umberger plays with Giroux, his numbers will likely rise. Hartnell did get a lot of his points on the PP from feeds by Giroux.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


And... Hexy might be looking down the road, in two yrs they may need that $4.75M to pay "fill in the blank" (Couturier, B. Schenn, etc.)
Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
He's been completely open about shopping it. An quality defenseman or a LW for Tavares are on his list. I love O'Reilly, if Snow could ensure that he signs long term I'd fork over the 5th overall in an instant.
- eichiefs9


why not just go and sign back moulson? jt would be happy.
mw630
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
much better?
- landros 2


Much better than Umberger? Yes. I'm not saying his contract is good, I'm just saying Umberger is terrible at this point in his career. There is a reason they were going to buy him out.

http://www.sportingnews.c...xtall-flyers-blue-jackets
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
He's been completely open about shopping it. An quality defenseman or a LW for Tavares are on his list. I love O'Reilly, if Snow could ensure that he signs long term I'd fork over the 5th overall in an instant.
- eichiefs9


And depending on how the Top 4 picks falls, I would be tempted about it as well. If Ekblad falls, that would be a tempting situation.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
And depending on how the Top 4 picks falls, I would be tempted about it as well. If Ekblad falls, that would be a tempting situation.
- DDM-Coga

I can't imagine Ekblad would get passed the Oilers, if he falls at all.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
why not just go and sign back moulson? jt would be happy.
- Rockhead_37

I think his time here is done. He may not even want to sign back here. I'd take him back but I'm certainly not going to overpay him like someone on the open market will. Moulson may, generally speaking, score more goals that O'Reilly but ROR is a vastly more complete player than Moulson is.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
Thank you could not think of any.

So there is a comparable for ROR.

Dion is better then prospect Runblad and a 2nd.

- jake24242


RoR is worth way more than turris was at the time.....prob worth more than him right now too
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
BURNSY Long time coming but glad it happened
bluenatic411
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 01.14.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
He's been completely open about shopping it. An quality defenseman or a LW for Tavares are on his list. I love O'Reilly, if Snow could ensure that he signs long term I'd fork over the 5th overall in an instant.
- eichiefs9

Shatty + Blues #1 (21st overall) enough to get it done?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
Shatty + Blues #1 (21st overall) enough to get it done?
- bluenatic411

For the 5th overall? Sold.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
I can't imagine Ekblad would get passed the Oilers, if he falls at all.
- eichiefs9


If it goes Sam-Sam...oilers have a tough choice in Leon or Ekblad. I think they go with the German.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
BURNSY Long time coming but glad it happened
- Popcorn Kid


glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
I heard snowy is shopping the 5th for a 1st line LW. Wouldny be shocked if Roy and Snow are talking...wait did they like eachother when they played?
- DDM-Coga


I don't understand all this ROR trade talk. Why the hell would the AVs even deal him?
romefalls19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.26.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
I don't understand all this ROR trade talk. Why the hell would the AVs even deal him?
- glove_was_stuck


Because him, his agent and dad think he's worth 6.5 million a year and uses arbitration/hold outs as a negotiation tactic. Not worth the head ache
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Much better than Umberger? Yes. I'm not saying his contract is good, I'm just saying Umberger is terrible at this point in his career. There is a reason they were going to buy him out.

http://www.sportingnews.c...xtall-flyers-blue-jackets

- mw630


The article starts off by blasting a combined 15yr assist GM / head GM (Homer) who assembled a team that went to the playoffs all but one full season (they missed the half yr as well). Homer did as well as any GM with trades, and TOTAL management of the team.

I don't think anyone would deny that Hartnell is the better player. But, "much better"? I'm not sure whether I believe the analysis stats in the article. There are way too many variables. First, Hartnell play with Giroux. And, who knows maybe Umberger just needs some new surroundings, new line mates, etc...

Brad Richards, Briere, etc... have all gotten bought out. So what, normally it doesn't reflect on their play, only their value.

Maybe Umberger is all Hexy could get for Hartnell. Maybe that was the best deal on the table.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Because him, his agent and dad think he's worth 6.5 million a year and uses arbitration/hold outs as a negotiation tactic. Not worth the head ache
- romefalls19


oh for (frank) sakes

Edit: Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate it.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
RoR is worth way more than turris was at the time.....prob worth more than him right now too
- sensarmy_11


I think he would be worth significantly more than Turris.
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