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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
Sure they have. IIRC he didn't miss a shift after that.
- PLindbergh31


Pretty sure he missed 2 games.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
He is a defensive stalwart as well.. Ranked 885 in +- this past season.
- jak521


He played for Buffalo and they sucked out loud.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
He played for Buffalo and they sucked out loud.
- johndewar


He wasn't exactly locking it down in St. Louis.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
I don't see Hexy paying VL to be a 4rth line center all season. He will be either 2C or traded. Those are really the only logical options.
- Deasr1



Traded might not be an option.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
I like Schenn on the top PP unit but I do not like him on Wing. Keep him center and allow him to get better. Right now this is how I see the Flyers Forwards lineup if we can't get rid of Vinny. Berube isn't magically going to be happy with Vinny this year, he will be back in the Doghouse.

Umberger-G-Voracek
Raffl-Schenn-Simmonds
Bellmere-Coots-Read
Rosehill-Vinny-Rinaldo

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I prefer this...

Simmonds - G- Voracek
Raffl - Schenn- Laughton
Umburger - Coots- Read
Bellmare-Vinny-Akeson/McGinn/Rinaldo
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
did you even consult the magic 8 ball? i bet you didnt.
- Doc_Sarcasm

True, I didn't really have to look. That thing wouldn't even float to the top to answer a question like that. Waste of it's time. Me... I got the time.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
Pretty sure he missed 2 games.
- jmatchett383


A shift, 2 games what's the difference.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
He played for Buffalo and they sucked out loud.
- johndewar



Guy is surviving on reputation at this point.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Ott does fill the Hartnell's agitator role. He can take faceoffs, play the pk, etc. I guess he can do a thing or two.

I just don't want to pay him.

- johndewar

I prefer not to sign him, but now I can see why we would be linked to him. With Harts and Rinaldo on this team, I didn't see the need. Now, maybe little more. That hopefully mean Coots would be the 2c if VL is moved. I think he is ready for that job.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Traded might not be an option.
- Tomahawk


If Hexy can trade Hartnell, the worst player in the history of hockey, and acquire a fantastic-skating, two-way standout, goal scoring machine like Umberger, I'm sure he can trade Vinny.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
I prefer this...

Simmonds - G- Voracek
Raffl - Schenn- Laughton
Umburger - Coots- Read
Bellmare-Vinny-Akeson/McGinn/Rinaldo

- juiced

no way laughton is a 2nd line player
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
Traded might not be an option.
- Tomahawk

I am sure it is an option...rather what the price for someone to take him in the hindering aspect.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
Traded might not be an option.
- Tomahawk

I heard on the radio he's always dreamed of playing in the Barclay's Center.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
I prefer not to sign him, but now I can see why we would be linked to him. With Harts and Rinaldo on this team, I didn't see the need. Now, maybe little more. That hopefully mean Coots would be the 2c if VL is moved. I think he is ready for that job.
- Deasr1


It might be a good spot for him, but him at 3C might be better for the team.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
He played for Buffalo and they sucked out loud.
- johndewar

He was also a -15 in 29 games for the Blues...

-15 would have been good for 837th in the league. Stretched out over a full season, thats a worse +- than he had with the Sabres.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
no way laughton is a 2nd line player
- 2Real

He's Forsberg Light. Ask Craig Button.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
He's Forsberg Light. Ask Craig Button.
- mayorofangrytown


You joke, but...well, dude's pretty spot on most of the time.

Although I disagree on this one.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
If Hexy can trade Hartnell, the worst player in the history of hockey, and acquire a fantastic-skating, two-way standout, goal scoring machine like Umberger, I'm sure he can trade Vinny.
- jmatchett383

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
Guy is surviving on reputation at this point.
- Tomahawk


Is he that bad at this point?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
Guy is surviving on reputation at this point.
- Tomahawk



I don't see the need for him. If your saying we need an agitator I think we have enough with Rinaldo(if he plays) I would rather have a team toughness. RJ might not drop the gloves like hartnell but it isn't like he shys away from contact. We still have Simmonds. Laughton plays with a chippiness to his game. I just don't see a need for Ott.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 24 @ 12:48 PM ET
You joke, but...well, dude's pretty spot on most of the time.

Although I disagree on this one.

- jmatchett383

I watched more than half his games this season. He's really good. You'll be pleasantly surprised I think.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:49 PM ET
He's Forsberg Light. Ask Craig Button.
- mayorofangrytown

but what do you really think?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:49 PM ET
I don't see Hexy paying VL to be a 4rth line center all season. He will be either 2C or traded. Those are really the only logical options.
- Deasr1


We paid him 4.5 to be 4th line player last season. Berube will structure the lines to give us the best shot at winning and we all know he wasn't a fan of Vinny last season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:49 PM ET
I watched more than half his games this season. He's really good. You'll be pleasantly surprised I think.
- mayorofangrytown


I hope so. I'd still start him as the 4C and earn his way up the roster...assuming he has a strong camp.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:50 PM ET
no way laughton is a 2nd line player
- 2Real



Yes...and Raffl wasnt going to be anything but an occasional fill in at the time of his signing. I like what I saw in limited time for Laughton and I think he has more than enough puck skills to play wing on 2nd line...especially without the pressure to Center it.
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