J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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I would love to see Jerome Iginla as a Flyer. I would love to see a player of his status play with Claude Giroux. However, I don't see the fit. Pushing one of Simmonds or Voracek back to a checking role isn't a smart idea. Voracek and Simmonds are top six forwards, the same way Hartnell was. Heck, the development of Brayden Schenn or Matt Read could get pushed back as wingers as well. - SuperSchennBros
What are you talking about? If you move Vinny you can have this:
Inginla - Giroux - Voracek
Winger - Schenn - Simmonds
Umberger - Couturier - Read
Raffl - Laughton - Bellemore
No one pushed back |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Tallon was just telling Duthie last night that he's very happy with his organizational C and D depth and his needs are on wing. - Tomahawk
Also, Ellis is terrible. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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I would love to see Jerome Iginla as a Flyer. I would love to see a player of his status play with Claude Giroux. However, I don't see the fit. Pushing one of Simmonds or Voracek back to a checking role isn't a smart idea. Voracek and Simmonds are top six forwards, the same way Hartnell was. Heck, the development of Brayden Schenn or Matt Read could get pushed back as wingers as well. - SuperSchennBros
Ron Hextall is placing a (very reasonable) wager on Brayden Schenn having more to give than he has already. I think you can forget about someone like Jarome Iginla showing up this year. |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Tallon was just telling Duthie last night that he's very happy with his organizational C and D depth and his needs are on wing. - Tomahawk
Ok. Vinny to Nashville for MDZ and Carter Hutton |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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What are you talking about? If you move Vinny you can have this:
Inginla - Giroux - Voracek
Winger - Schenn - Simmonds
Umberger - Couturier - Read
Raffl - Laughton - Bellemore
No one pushed back - J35Bacher
The Flyers signed Kip Winger?
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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, NJ Joined: 10.04.2006
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I would love to see Jerome Iginla as a Flyer. I would love to see a player of his status play with Claude Giroux. However, I don't see the fit. Pushing one of Simmonds or Voracek back to a checking role isn't a smart idea. Voracek and Simmonds are top six forwards, the same way Hartnell was. Heck, the development of Brayden Schenn or Matt Read could get pushed back as wingers as well. - SuperSchennBros
by signing Iginla we wouldn't be dropping Simmonds or Voracek to a checking role.
Iginla - Giroux - Voracek
Simmonds - Schenn - Read
Umberger - Couts - Penner
Straka - Laughton - Raffl
I would trade Vinny and sign Iginla and Penner |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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So that implies that with no competition, Edmonton just willfully overpaid the player, with no insight into the salary market at all? And what a player is worth? - MJL
No.. it shows me that they have serious hope that he can play a full season at the level he did in 2011-12. They ( like the Flyers) put themselves in a position of weakness by trading for him prior to UFA. They liked him, made him their priority, and then signed him to a deal paying 2x what he was making in his last contract. In the mean time, all of his numbers have steadily declined, and he is now more of a 3rd pairing guy.
Technically, if you wanna break it down even more.. he was 7th among d-men in TOI for the Blue Jackets last year.. So, yea.. a 4.5 million dollar reserve d-man. |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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by signing Iginla we wouldn't be dropping Simmonds or Voracek to a checking role.
Iginla - Giroux - Voracek
Simmonds - Schenn - Read
Umberger - Couts - Penner
Straka - Laughton - Raffl
I would trade Vinny and sign Iginla and Penner - flyersfan51
Hahah you are funny. |
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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, NJ Joined: 10.04.2006
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Hahah you are funny. - jak521
what's so funny? looks like a decent lineup to me. |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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what's so funny? looks like a decent lineup to me. - flyersfan51
Wait, you were serious about Penner?
EDIT: and why are you penciling Straka in on the 4th line? |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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There are two options. Pens and Redwings went with option 2 this year, Flyers and Bruins picked option 1.
http://www.capgeek.com/fa...injured-reserve-LTIR-work
If you are building a roster that won't be under the cap including Pronger's hit, then you want to exceed the cap by as close to $4.94 million as possible AND include a couple of AHL contracts on that can be demoted once the season starts to create some breathing room. For example Hagg and Straka who both have 925K cap hits. - Feanor
Here's an example of Option 2. Once the season starts Hagg and Straka would be demoted, and Laughton would be recalled with Rinaldo as the 13th forward. Lauridsen could be the 7th defensemen.
FORWARDS
Brayden Schenn ($2.500m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Jussi Jokinen ($4.000m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
R.J. Umberger ($4.600m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ($0.600m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Petr Straka ($0.925m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($2.000m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Robert Hagg ($0.925m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Chad Johnson ($1.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$345,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $76,011,429; BONUSES: $1,500,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$4,911,429 |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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The Flyers signed Kip Winger?
/confused - johndewar
sORRY. Just an empty spot to fill with younger player or FA. SHould have just let it blank. But just wanted to show that signing Iginla doesn push wingers down like the one guy thougt |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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what's so funny? looks like a decent lineup to me. - flyersfan51
Well first Straka isn't a 4th line player as one of his knocks is his defensive play. He is a guy that has t play in top 6 and score. |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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The Flyers signed Kip Winger?
/confused - johndewar
His teeth are whiter than white!
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: A medical emergency involving you. Joined: 08.05.2013
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Pathetic oilers always screwing up the market. Nikitin 4.5, gordon 3, i know the flyers do teor part but my god |
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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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Wait, you were serious about Penner?
EDIT: and why are you penciling Straka in on the 4th line? - jak521
Silly - we can't have Waffles and Pancakes on the same team! |
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Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 03.08.2011
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sORRY. Just an empty spot to fill with younger player or FA. SHould have just let it blank. But just wanted to show that signing Iginla doesn push wingers down like the one guy thougt - J35Bacher
I think the point of Iginla pushing either Jake or Simmer down in the lineup was that Iginla is a natural RW, not LW. Whether Iggy would sign here knowing he can play LW1 riding shotgun with Giroux and Jake, or play RW3 with Couts and Umberger, is another story. |
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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, NJ Joined: 10.04.2006
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Wait, you were serious about Penner?
EDIT: and why are you penciling Straka in on the 4th line? - jak521
where would you put Straka? |
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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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where would you put Straka? - flyersfan51
On the Phantoms.. he isnt a 4th line NHL player.. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Simmonds and Voracek would still be top 6 players if the Flyers acquired Iginla. - MJL
How? All three are best suited at Right Wing. |
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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, NJ Joined: 10.04.2006
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Well first Straka isn't a 4th line player as one of his knocks is his defensive play. He is a guy that has t play in top 6 and score. - J35Bacher
do you see him on the flyers next year? laughton almost has to. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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Ron Hextall is placing a (very reasonable) wager on Brayden Schenn having more to give than he has already. I think you can forget about someone like Jarome Iginla showing up this year. - johndewar
Definitely agree. |
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Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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How? All three are best suited at Right Wing. - SuperSchennBros
Simmer has played LW before, both here and in LA. Read, Umberger, Bellemare, Raffl and Akeson can play either side, too. |
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