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AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
My predicitions after seeing how much players are going for:

Schenn G Voreck
Read Vinnie Simmer
RJ Couts Akeson (raffl in the 3rd)
Raffl Laughton internal spot (Rinaldo/McGinn/Alderson)

As much as it sucks I can see the flyers going with what they have and then go for it next year. Keep future cap low and sell players high from now to July 1 2015
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
Dustin Brown is signed to a pretty large deal too. He's a good player, but doesn't produce much offensively
- PhillySportsGuy

Win big now... struggle mightily later.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
Just sitting here thinking and not working but would you include Stolarz in a deal to move Vinny to make it appealing and also get back a little more useful asset and then take Thatcher Demko at 17?
- J35Bacher


nope.
danham92
Joined: 02.20.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
My predicitions after seeing how much players are going for:

Schenn G Voreck
Read Vinnie Simmer
RJ Couts Akeson (raffl in the 3rd)
Raffl Laughton internal spot (Rinaldo/McGinn/Alderson)

As much as it sucks I can see the flyers going with what they have and then go for it next year. Keep future cap low and sell players high from now to July 1 2015

- AGL_91


This. e15
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Just sitting here thinking and not working but would you include Stolarz in a deal to move Vinny to make it appealing and also get back a little more useful asset and then take Thatcher Demko at 17?
- J35Bacher


No for two reasons:

1. I like Stolarz more than I like getting rid of Lecavalier's contract.
2. I do not think Demko is worth the 17th pick.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Win big now... struggle mightily later.
- jak521

That must be it. Still, give Gaborik 4 or 5 years. 7 at his age with his injury history is absolutely senseless.

The over 35 rule applies to the last 3 or 4 years too.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
Correction:
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun · 3s

The exact AAV on Gaborik: $4.875 M per year. I had narrowed it down to $4.9 M but it's $4.875 M exactly

So it's kind of a steal really

- Streit2ThePoint


The term is a bit long.

I wonder if this shoves Richie out the door, though.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
That must be it. Still, give Gaborik 4 or 5 years. 7 at his age with his injury history is absolutely senseless.
- hereticpride


Not really? If he retires at 37 and stays relatively healthy those 5 years, that's a great cap hit.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:25 PM ET
That must be it. Still, give Gaborik 4 or 5 years. 7 at his age with his injury history is absolutely senseless.

The over 35 rule applies to the last 4 years too.

- hereticpride


No it doesn't, players have to be 35 years old when contract is signed.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Wtf is Lombardi thinking? Gaboriks and Richards contracts are going to hurt that team badly in three years time.
- hereticpride


The Kings fans are marching down to the Staples Center now with pitchforks, their gonna salt the earth, and start fires.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
No it doesn't, players have to be 35 years old when contract is signed.
- mochoson


Would there not be a cap recapture penalty if he retires early?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
The Kings fans are marching down to the Staples Center now with pitchforks, their gonna salt the earth, and start fires.
- PLindbergh31


They are still wasted from their Stanley Cup parade.

Bastards.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
Would there not be a cap recapture penalty if he retires early?
- aflyerpower8

via capgeek:

"The 2013 CBA states that any long-term contract — defined as seven years or more — entered into on or before Sept. 15, 2012, is eligible for cap advantage recapture if a team received a “cap advantage” from it at the time the player retires or defects from the NHL."

So it looks like new contracts are not subject to cap recapture, in short.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
via capgeek:

"The 2013 CBA states that any long-term contract — defined as seven years or more — entered into on or before Sept. 15, 2012, is eligible for cap advantage recapture if a team received a “cap advantage” from it at the time the player retires or defects from the NHL."

So it looks like new contracts are not subject to cap recapture, in short.

- BulliesPhan87


Then this seems like a great contract for LA.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
They are still wasted from their Stanley Cup parade.

Bastards.

- johndewar


Meh.... Who cares about the 2 Cups in 3 years! Gaborik has just been signed to a 7 year deal. The Kings are (frank)ed.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
They are still wasted from their Stanley Cup parade.

Bastards.

- johndewar


Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:32 PM ET
Would there not be a cap recapture penalty if he retires early?
- aflyerpower8


Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 12m

Will have to see yr-by-yr breakdown of Gaborik deal but IF he decides to walk away from any remaining yrs, there are no cap hits/penalties.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:33 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 12m

Will have to see yr-by-yr breakdown of Gaborik deal but IF he decides to walk away from any remaining yrs, there are no cap hits/penalties.

- Streit2ThePoint

Well, it looks better and better then
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:33 PM ET

- hammarby31

my family guy clip from a couple pages back applies here as well
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:34 PM ET
Well, it looks better and better then
- Giroux_Is_God


Stupid poopyhead Kings are good at everything

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:37 PM ET

- hammarby31


I'm surprised velcro sneakers haven't made a comeback. With all the fat out of shape slobs around, tying one's shoes seems like such a waste of energy.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:37 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 12m

Will have to see yr-by-yr breakdown of Gaborik deal but IF he decides to walk away from any remaining yrs, there are no cap hits/penalties.

- Streit2ThePoint


Why would he walk away, especially if he isn't going to get paid?
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:38 PM ET
Stupid poopyhead Kings are good at everything


- Streit2ThePoint




I have a feeling if the flyers signed Gaborik to this exact same contract people would claim it to be the worst contract ever.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
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keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Why would he walk away, especially if he isn't going to get paid?
- wolfhounds

Because contract is front loaded as much as allowed ...he wont want to play for free in the last couple years of the deal

Win win for both parties here
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