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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:32 AM ET
In the other blog I posted I thought Emery was probably gone. I'll revise that statement becuase I completely forgot about the 5 day window that UFA's get to talk to other teams before 7/1. So knowing that I think that we probably won't hear anything for a few more days about him as he dips his toe in to gauge interest.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:34 AM ET

That site is aggravating. A buddy of mine sent me the link to the James Neal Twitter Q and A from that site and it was hilarious, so I started browsing it more. I ended up at "Andrew Bynum is selling his Ferrari" or something similar and my browsing stopped there.

- TobyFlenderson


There are some very good sports bloggers in Philadelphia.

Kyle is not among them.
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:35 AM ET
If B Schenn gets the shot at 1LW as an option Hexy mentioned then Vinny could be back at C where he is most comfortable. I believe that adjustment (or lack of) was part of his production drop this season. G - Vinny - Coots - Laughton.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
Wheels and his sidecar?
- Tomahawk


It's all good.




mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
I typically don't put much stock into what Panotch says ever, but his suggestion of sending Vinny to Nashville for Del Zotto really intrigued me.

Granted I realize Del Zotto is an RFA and will probably require at least 3.5 mill, maybe you can also send Grossmann or L Schenn with Vinny and retain some of Vinny's salary in the process.

Not sure that gets it done. Flyers still dealing from a position of weakness there.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
It's all good.


- wolfhounds


Match race between Grossman and L. Schenn?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
I typically don't put much stock into what Panotch says ever, but his suggestion of sending Vinny to Nashville for Del Zotto really intrigued me.

Granted I realize Del Zotto is an RFA and will probably require at least 3.5 mill, maybe you can also send Grossmann or L Schenn with Vinny and retain some of Vinny's salary in the process.

Not sure that gets it done. Flyers still dealing from a position of weakness there.

- mcefalu


I'm not sure Del Zotto gets that much. He's coming off of a rough season.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:40 AM ET
In the other blog I posted I thought Emery was probably gone. I'll revise that statement becuase I completely forgot about the 5 day window that UFA's get to talk to other teams before 7/1. So knowing that I think that we probably won't hear anything for a few more days about him as he dips his toe in to gauge interest.
- FlyersGrace


My guess is that they are letting Razor shop himself around to see if anyone has interest in him as a #1 or 1A. If not, I think he re-signs here as the backup. I'm thinking they offer him 2 years, 2.2 million, 1.1 cap hit.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:41 AM ET
I typically don't put much stock into what Panotch says ever, but his suggestion of sending Vinny to Nashville for Del Zotto really intrigued me.

Granted I realize Del Zotto is an RFA and will probably require at least 3.5 mill, maybe you can also send Grossmann or L Schenn with Vinny and retain some of Vinny's salary in the process.

Not sure that gets it done. Flyers still dealing from a position of weakness there.

- mcefalu


Replacing either Schenn or Grossmann in this current d configuration with Del Zotto, would make them woefully undersized.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:41 AM ET
I'm not sure Del Zotto gets that much. He's coming off of a rough season.
- PhillySportsGuy


True. I'm hoping that would provide enough leverage to get him. Maybe others disagree but I feel like he could be a nice compliment to the Flyers blueline, even if his minutes are limited to the bottom three
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:41 AM ET
I'm not sure Del Zotto gets that much. He's coming off of a rough season.
- PhillySportsGuy


I agree with that, however I don't think anyone, including Nashville, is going to move a young dman for VL.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
I typically don't put much stock into what Panotch says ever, but his suggestion of sending Vinny to Nashville for Del Zotto really intrigued me.

Granted I realize Del Zotto is an RFA and will probably require at least 3.5 mill, maybe you can also send Grossmann or L Schenn with Vinny and retain some of Vinny's salary in the process.

Not sure that gets it done. Flyers still dealing from a position of weakness there.

- mcefalu


I would do Del Zotto for Vinny; thats reclamation project for reclamation project, except ones been paid already.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
Replacing either Schenn or Grossmann in this current d configuration with Del Zotto, make them woefully undersized.
- MBFlyerfan


I thought about that as well, but unfortunately, there aren't many other tradeable defensemen that I can see Flyers being able to move. Would I rather deal Macdonald? Sure. Seems extremely unlikely.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
David Strehle ‏@DStrehleTFP 3m

May just be oversight: #Flyers have deleted Hartnell from roster, still haven't added Umberger as of yet (web & app) pic.twitter.com/pBHosXKKhO


Boom Umberger getting bought out, Flyers will have 20 mill cap space

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
Replacing either Schenn or Grossmann in this current d configuration with Del Zotto, make them woefully undersized.
- MBFlyerfan


If they are looking to replace anyone on D, it is most likely going to be Grossmann. And, if that's the case, I'd rather let Lauridsen and Alt battle it out for that spot, along with maybe a journeyman free agent who can fill the 7th man role. It would be nice if our 6th and 7th dmen each had cap hits of under 1 million.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:46 AM ET
True. I'm hoping that would provide enough leverage to get him. Maybe others disagree but I feel like he could be a nice compliment to the Flyers blueline, even if his minutes are limited to the bottom three
- mcefalu


Yeah. If they are willing to move him for VL and ask the Flyers to eat $1M per year, Flyers should jump on it.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:46 AM ET
My guess is that they are letting Razor shop himself around to see if anyone has interest in him as a #1 or 1A. If not, I think he re-signs here as the backup. I'm thinking they offer him 2 years, 2.2 million, 1.1 cap hit.
- BiggE


Agreed.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:47 AM ET
I agree with that, however I don't think anyone, including Nashville, is going to move a young dman for VL.
- BiggE


Yeah. I don't think they're attached to MDZ, but I'd find it hard to believe they'd part with anything of value for VL.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:47 AM ET
My guess is that they are letting Razor shop himself around to see if anyone has interest in him as a #1 or 1A. If not, I think he re-signs here as the backup. I'm thinking they offer him 2 years, 2.2 million, 1.1 cap hit.
- BiggE


That would be awful. There are much better options out there.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:47 AM ET
If they are looking to replace anyone on D, it is most likely going to be Grossmann. And, if that's the case, I'd rather let Lauridsen and Alt battle it out for that spot, along with maybe a journeyman free agent who can fill the 7th man role. It would be nice if our 6th and 7th dmen each had cap hits of under 1 million.
- BiggE


Yeah, Alt seems to be the perfect example of what could really help the blueline. Mobility, size, puck handling competence. Hope he forces his way onto the roster somehow
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:49 AM ET
David Strehle ‏@DStrehleTFP 3m

May just be oversight: #Flyers have deleted Hartnell from roster, still haven't added Umberger as of yet (web & app) pic.twitter.com/pBHosXKKhO


Boom Umberger getting bought out, Flyers will have 20 mill cap space

- Winning


20 mill? Who else are we trading? Vinny and Grossman? Jake?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:49 AM ET
David Strehle ‏@DStrehleTFP 3m

May just be oversight: #Flyers have deleted Hartnell from roster, still haven't added Umberger as of yet (web & app) pic.twitter.com/pBHosXKKhO


Boom Umberger getting bought out, Flyers will have 20 mill cap space

- Winning

Mark Alt's on the current roster... take that for what its worth.

(Straka and Alderson, too)
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
Yeah. I don't think they're attached to MDZ, but I'd find it hard to believe they'd part with anything of value for VL.
- PhillySportsGuy


I dont think so. Vinny still a very good player.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
I dont think so. Vinny still a very good player.
- mochoson


Then why does everyone thinks its so difficult to move him?
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
Mark Alt's on the current roster... take that for what its worth.

(Straka and Alderson, too)

- Tomahawk


I had a dream the other night that Petr Straka just beasted the AHL in the first half of the season and then made his way onto the Flyers top LW spot and tore it up.

Then I woke up and had to go to work. Some start to the week.
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