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Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't think anyone (aside from Garth Snow) has ever said MacD is a top pairing D man.
- nails




ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
It's total GA, right?
- jmatchett383


Yup but you'll have a 1st level or 2nd level ticket.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
So I have a last minute family thing I have to deal with tonight, but my loss could be someone else's gain. I have 2 tickets for the draft tonight (and something for parking I think) so if someone is interested, I guess DM me. They are in a PDF file so I'm guessing I could just e-mail it to someone. Let me know, I don't want the tickets to go to waste and hope someone can enjoy participating in the draft in person.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
They tanked all year for Wiggins. And they didn't get Wiggins.
- J35Bacher

But they got the best player in the draft, so they have that going for them
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
Not only that but that's a salary dump for Chicago.

However, if they make that deal the Panthers could be a playoff team next year.

- mayorofangrytown


The Flyers can match that offer and give them a better 1st round pick.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:26 PM ET
[quote=Moose_15]
well, Garth says a lot of things
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:28 PM ET
buckle up indeed!


- wolfhounds

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:28 PM ET
So I have a last minute family thing I have to deal with tonight, but my loss could be someone else's gain. I have 2 tickets for the draft tonight (and something for parking I think) so if someone is interested, I guess DM me. They are in a PDF file so I'm guessing I could just e-mail it to someone. Let me know, I don't want the tickets to go to waste and hope someone can enjoy participating in the draft in person.
- five4fighting10


that really sucks. your a good man
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 1:29 PM ET

- EastBeast18




Imagine if the window was open and he flew out.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:29 PM ET
E5: My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy that knows this girl who's going with a guy that saw Claude Giroux passed out at 31 Flavors last night lamenting Hextall trading Matt Read.


- Moose_15


She was so hot in the 80s and early 90s.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
Yup but you'll have a 1st level or 2nd level ticket.
- ob18

My ticket has a seat number and section. 2nd level is GA. I believe all day two tix are GA.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
My position is extremely strong. You are clueless about Campbell. He is a much stronger first pairing defender than MacDonald.

Brian Campbell: 82 games, 37 points, -6, 1611:12 ES TOI, CF 52.6%
http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2013-14&sit=5v5
-Most common teammates:
Gilbert - CF 52.8% with Campbell, 47.2% without Campbell
Boyes - CF 52.4% with, 50.3% without
Fleischmann - CF 53.3% with, 49.8% without
Bjugstad - CF 52.2% with, 50% without

Andrew MacDonald: 82 games, 28 points, -22, 1477:35 TOI, CF 44.4%
http://stats.hockeyanalys...ue&season=2013-14&sit=5v5
-Most common teammates:
Harmonic - CF 45.5% with MacDonald, 52.7% without MacDonald
Okposo - CF 44.9% with, 52.5% without
Tavares - CF 43.8% with, 53.1% without
Bailey - 42.8% with, 56.4% without

One of these defensemen is cut out to play a ton of minutes on the top pairing. It is not MacDonald.

- Feanor



You're using a stat to compare two players that isn't capable of doing that. Corsi cannot be used to compare two players, and say this player is a better player. It's not capable of doing that. That is a basic flaw of Corsi. Sometimes a good player on a bad team, has bad corsi numbers. That's a fundamental truth of Corsi. So I disagree that you have a strong position.

Secondly as far as your previous post is concerned. You have such a strong position that the conversation was directed away from the actual topic which was the proposed trade, and the merits of MacDonald versus Campbell as players. Towards me and the opinion you have that I favor every signing the Flyers make, and whether the MacDonald was a good signing or not. When neither of those two topics, have anything to do with the discussion.
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:31 PM ET
Imagine if the window was open and he flew out.
- J35Bacher

Thats what im saying, if that window is open that kid is gone with the wind.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:31 PM ET
I was able to snag 6 tickets for me and my friends for tonight's draft, but other plans were made so we can't use them. Not looking to make money, obviously. I don't really wanna split them up, since it's a PDF file. I'd rather just forward it to one person. Anyone interested?
- steelydan


Bump? Anyone interested?
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:32 PM ET
that really sucks. your a good man
- Just5

Haha thanks but a good man would find a way to do the family thing (or get out of it) and get to the draft. But since I can't bank on what time I'd get down there, I'd rather someone have the opportunity to enjoy it. Oh well, things happen, I'll still be able to follow it on TV.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:32 PM ET
She was so hot in the 80s and early 90s.
- ThirdEye



Can't say that I didn't watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer in appreciation of her aesthetics.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:32 PM ET
The Flyers can match that offer and give them a better 1st round pick.
- PhillySportsGuy

The Flyers don't have a 30 goal scorer to give and if you listen to the people on here they don't have an NHL ready prospect to give.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:33 PM ET
The Flyers don't have a 30 goal scorer to give and if you listen to the people on here they don't have an NHL ready prospect to give.
- mayorofangrytown


Remove Gudbranson

Read+1st rounder+Hagg for #1
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
The Flyers don't have a 30 goal scorer to give and if you listen to the people on here they don't have an NHL ready prospect to give.
- mayorofangrytown



But the Flyers can package 6-five goal scorers -- which is clearly the same thing.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
Guy over on PSD boards claiming to have a family member that works for flyers saying a roster "fan favorite" player is definitely getting traded tonight. lol take that for what its worth.
- EastBeast18

Dont let the door hit you on the way out, Zach
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
Remove Gudbranson

Read+1st rounder+Hagg for #1

- PhillySportsGuy

Pretty sure they would sneeze right at you.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Remove Gudbranson

Read+1st rounder+Hagg for #1

- PhillySportsGuy

You know that doesn't even look the same right?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
But they got the best player in the draft, so they have that going for them
- KINGKENZO

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
I want to throw a question out there. What players on this list do you think are what they are?

Claude Giroux

James van Riemsdyk

Brayden Schenn

Luke Schenn

Sean Couturier

Evander Kane

Wayne Simmonds

Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
But they got the best player in the draft, so they have that going for them
- KINGKENZO



Total consciousness.
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