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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:11 PM ET
They're trying to take care of their families
- funmaster18


If big tit betty needs new implants every year maybe its time for a new woman.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
So you guys aren't re-signing Goc? I would so leverage Sutter to bring in depth and sign Goc to take his place.
- Tomahawk


honestly, if theyd both be reasonable, id take both back.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
bonino is honestly meh to me. i think sbisa is pretty beat.

okay you got a first. always nice.

but you traded to a conference foe, and didnt exactly get some great big haul.

i would have been in for sutter and the first, and maybe something else small.

but not pouliot plus other decent assets.

- stayinthefnnet


Bonino is going to regress, Sbisa looks like a bust and the first rounder is the late one the Ducks had.

Pouliot is a legit prospect with a lot of potential.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
If big tit betty needs new implants every year maybe its time for a new woman.
- flyer_nutter

I think we are going to be very unhappy tonight. But I'm willing to wait murdering people until I see what they do in FA. Kimmo would not stay around that cheap if they weren't trying to contend this year. I have to believe that.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
monty is monty. i get protective.

i've seen the end of one episode from last season, when everybody got butchered at some wedding, and fans of the show went batpoop. i honestly don't know what it's about, and pretty much don't care.

- hammarby31

you have no soul
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:14 PM ET
If big tit betty needs new implants every year maybe its time for a new woman.
- flyer_nutter

and you think thats cheap?

former BTB is gonna want some capital just to go away. she probably shat out a kid or two youre gonna have to pay for.

then we have to do this whole process again with the new one.

never ends i say. never ends. hell, i think i need to hold out for a few more mil
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:14 PM ET
i mean jordan staal gave the pens absolutely 0 leverage whatsoever. and i think they got a better haul than the nucks did for kesler, who is the better asset.

man, that GM must have been pretty incompetent. gee, i have a swell idea. neat-o!

- stayinthefnnet


opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'd honestly kind of hate losing Read over Simmonds.
- eayost


Not even close for me..

Both players have played 3 seasons with the Flyers..
Read has a better +/- while Simmonds has a better everything else including age.


Read (age 28), 196 games, 57g, 54a, 111p, +10, 30pims
Simmonds (age 25), 209 games, 72g, 69a, 141p, -12, 302pims.

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
Bonino is going to regress, Sbisa looks like a bust and the first rounder is the late one the Ducks had.

Pouliot is a legit prospect with a lot of potential.

- PhillySportsGuy

yeah i feel the exact same. so i am glad they didnt move him in a deal for it.

id have gone sutter, the first, and a guy like phillip samuelsson or brian dumoulin. that would have been my line in the sand.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
So you guys aren't re-signing Goc? I would so leverage Sutter to bring in depth and sign Goc to take his place.
- Tomahawk


I think Goc is better than Sutter
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:16 PM ET
and you think thats cheap?

former BTB is gonna want some capital just to go away. she probably shat out a kid or two youre gonna have to pay for.

then we have to do this whole process again with the new one.

never ends i say. never ends. hell, i think i need to hold out for a few more mil

- stayinthefnnet



Bet BTB isn't the only sycophant in Hockey Jock's life... plus you've gotta pay the agent, Uncle Sam, contract insurance, and you've got to buy that pickup for your dad and the house for your mum since they took you to practice all those years...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:16 PM ET
yeah i feel the exact same. so i am glad they didnt move him in a deal for it.

id have gone sutter, the first, and a guy like phillip samuelsson or brian dumoulin. that would have been my line in the sand.

- stayinthefnnet


That would have been fair. It would have given the Ducks something to think about.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:17 PM ET
Not even close for me..

Both players have played 3 seasons with the Flyers..
Read has a better +/- while Simmonds has a better everything else including age.


Read (age 28), 196 games, 57g, 54a, 111p, +10, 30pims
Simmonds (age 25), 209 games, 72g, 69a, 141p, -12, 302pims.

- opeth_pa


I'm not going to delve into the research, but I'm guessing the zone usage of the players is very different. Simmonds also gets that top PP time, which he certainly earns by scoring there. When Simmonds isn't scoring PP goals/points, I like Read's game a lot better overall.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:20 PM ET
Can we start the draft now? For my convenience.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
I dont understand why the Panthers wouldn't want the top pick. Ekblad seems to fit their greatest need. I guess they just don't like him that much.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
I think Goc is better than Sutter
- PhillySportsGuy

i think sutter has some ability if given decent wingers. but he cant carry a line via possession like staal did. but if you give him say stempy and beau bennett all year (not studs by any means, but not the craig and tanner tandem) i think you get 16 goals, 25 or so assists, and solid two way ability. if he is reasonable in his RFA demands and takes a deal around 3 and change. thats fine by me.

goc has a much lower ceiling to me, but for what he is, hes pretty good. i dont think he will score out of the single digits in goals, but just being able to put him out there on the fourth line would instantaneously increase the possession numbers out of black hole status.

id be totally fine with a fourth line of goc, gibbons, and someone else.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
Bet BTB isn't the only sycophant in Hockey Jock's life... plus you've gotta pay the agent, Uncle Sam, contract insurance, and you've got to buy that pickup for your dad and the house for your mum since they took you to practice all those years...
- Tomahawk


i truly and legitimately hate the world.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
When Simmonds isn't scoring PP goals/points, I like Read's game a lot better overall.
- eayost


Fair enough.

I personally think Simmonds brings more to the table and is 3 years younger.
Both players do things well and I would hate to see either moved for someone that isn't a legit or future number 1 dman.

Unless it is Steve Ott, then they should trade both for him.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:25 PM ET

8 minutes ago
@TSNRyanRishaug: Just spoke to Tallon, said he’s probly going to make the pick. Said he knows he’s been a little greedy, and is comfortable keeping it.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
8 minutes ago
@TSNRyanRishaug: Just spoke to Tallon, said he’s probly going to make the pick. Said he knows he’s been a little greedy, and is comfortable keeping it.

- funmaster18


This could be true or just trying to pump up the offers
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
This could be true or just trying to pump up the offers
- nonpoint22


Yeah, it means nothing really

Just throwing more fuel on the fire
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 11s

Dale Tallon on the phone...


Maybe he is calling the pizza man
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yeah, it means nothing really

Just throwing more fuel on the fire

- funmaster18

burn baby burn
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:30 PM ET
I guarantee when the boos rain down on the Pens, these Richardhairs wont reference when the draft was in Pitt and Holms was booed
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:32 PM ET
I guarantee when the boos rain down on the Pens, these Richardhairs wont reference when the draft was in Pitt and Holms was booed
- KINGKENZO

but they will surely reference the snowball at Santa Claus incident that happen before a lot of the current fan base was even born
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