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golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:36 AM ET
Lots of reports saying Sens having hard time getting what they want for Spezza. I hope maybe someone moves onto Vinny since Spezza deal seams tough
- J35Bacher


The teams looking at Spezza want a 2C.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
I have a feeling the offers are nowhere near what Tallon is suggesting. He's really just trying to drive up the price. My poker reads from his interview yesterday told me that.
- golfingsince

Seems logical to me.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:38 AM ET
Supposedly his upside isn't at the level of either of those guys. JBo would be the best analog in terms of future... top-ranked, good at everything but not an offensive dynamo.
- Tomahawk


The Bogo upside talk appears to have been unwarranted. He and JBo had the exact same number of points in their draft year - 61. In fact, they both scored 11 goals and 50 assists... spooky.

In Bogo's 352 NHL games he has 114 points.

In JBo's first 307 NHL games he had 124 points.
aoh718
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
The teams looking at Spezza want a 2C.
- golfingsince


Which he still produces points as a 1C. So that's why they're stuck.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
That's what I see happening. Both Spezza and Kesler will cost a ton.
- jmatchett383


I think the advanced UFA negotiating window will really (frank) with their trade value at the draft... think the asking price for Stastny on down to Roy have been roughly established already.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
I am in Philly visiting family and would love a ticket to the draft tonight...what are my chances?
- vejim

Very low
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:42 AM ET
The Bogo upside talk appears to have been unwarranted. He and JBo had the exact same number of points in their draft year - 61. In fact, they both scored 11 goals and 50 assists... spooky.

In Bogo's 352 NHL games he has 114 points.

In JBo's first 307 NHL games he had 124 points.

- Feanor


Bogo was seen to be on par with Doughty at draft time... he was considered to have expansive, Chelios-like upside. Petro was ridiculously talented but still ran third... LA wasn't even considering him at #2.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:43 AM ET
Bogo was seen to be on par with Doughty at draft time... he was considered to have expansive, Chelios-like upside. Petro was ridiculously talented but still ran third... LA wasn't even considering him at #2.
- Tomahawk


We got the best defenseman of the 4 anyway.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:44 AM ET
Meltzer wants Kempe...I can get on board with that. I also wouldn't be upset if they roll the dice on DeAngelo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:45 AM ET
Meltzer wants Kempe...I can get on board with that. I also wouldn't be upset if they roll the dice on DeAngelo.
- Baxter27


BARTYOUWANTTOSEEMYNEWCHAINSAWANDHOCKEYMASK!?!?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:46 AM ET
No No To Ho Ho

Who's with me?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
We got the best defenseman of the 4 anyway.
- jmatchett383


Human Eraser... who knew he'd actually end up erasing himself.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
No No To Ho Ho

Who's with me?

- hereticpride

I kind of like the kid. Not at 17 though
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:49 AM ET
Human Eraser... who knew he'd actually end up erasing himself.
- Tomahawk


I actually thought he played well (defensively) down the stretch and in the playoffs.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
The teams looking at Spezza want a 2C.
- golfingsince


Yes. And that is a role Lecavieler could fill
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
Yes. And that is a role Lecavieler could fill
- J35Bacher


Exactly. Spezza is a 1C on about 20 NHL teams. Kesler could slot anywhere from a 1-3, but is most likely a 2-3.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
I actually thought he played well (defensively) down the stretch and in the playoffs.
- jmatchett383



I thought him and streit were our best dmen in the playoffs.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
I can definitely see Hextall making a smart move tonight. Could be a deal nobody is expecting just like the Hartnell trade.
- GOA88


It'd be crazy if someone like MacDonald getting moved.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
Habs will trade for Yandle

then trade PK to the flyers for Vinny, Cout, Ghost, and our first
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
I am the only one who hopes they stand pat tonight and just pick best available?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
I actually thought he played well (defensively) down the stretch and in the playoffs.
- jmatchett383


Definitely. If he can't carry that over for the entirety of next season, the Luke Richardson comparisons are going to become a whole lot more pertinent (maybe even generous).
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:53 AM ET
It'd be crazy if someone like MacDonald getting moved.
- the deaninator


MacDonald + Lecavalier to Florida for Campbell.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:53 AM ET
I am the only one who hopes they stand pat tonight and just pick best available?
- MBFlyerfan


Nope. I'm with ya.

I mean, aside from half of the roster for Shea Weber, of course.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:54 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/phi...ad_ahead_of_his_time.html

Who the heck is this guy ANDERW ALBERT?

- MBFlyerfan

Al Alberts not so smart or talented twin?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:54 AM ET
Definitely. If he can't carry that over for the entirety of next season, the Luke Richardson comparisons are going to become a whole lot more pertinent (maybe even generous).
- Tomahawk


Maybe he has a small case of the Coburn's where (in general) he plays much better in the playoffs...although he had some definite lapses this past postseason.
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