He has what is sometimes deemed a "big personality": cocky, outspoken, and demonstrative. His coachability gets questioned -- he's the type of player who says "I'm a scorer, so don't ask me to play D and limit myself." He gets called selfish and a bad teammate.

Also, he apparently really turned off some teams during interviews at the Combine by not giving an inch and playing their game to tell them what they wanted to hear. He basically came off as saying "I'm not going to change who I am and you'll be sorry if you don't draft me, because I am THAT good."

That is why there are some teams who won't draft him no matter what.
- bmeltzer

I cant wait to see NHL D men get their hands on this kid. I really cant.

Hey maybe the goalies too.

True. Campbell is four and a half whole months older than Pronger was when the Flyers traded for him and he is not a Hall of Famer. But he is a 25 minute a night first pairing PMD who would be perfect with Coburn for two years, at which point the Flyers would have total cap flexibility.
- Feanor

My thinking exactly... unlike Pronger (7-years) and Streit (4-years), this 35-yo (2-years) would only be around as a bridge.

sorry, Campbell is on the hook for 7.1M

so if you retain Vinny salary, all of the sudden a guy like Campbell costs 8.5M for 2 years?

Of course it depends on the poster.
- jmatchett383

Understandable.

My thinking exactly... unlike Pronger (7-years) and Streit (4-years), this 35-yo (2-years) would only be around as a bridge.
- Tomahawk

It's also a lot more cap hit for those 2 years, as well.

You mean tonightm I would imagine I will, sure
- Giroux_Is_God

cool. youll have to let us know what the vibe is like and things of that nature

Have you looked at the contracts in 2 years? almost everyone is up.

- nails

Unfortunately Pronger and Umberger will still have a year left, but maybe there will be ways around that. I'm actually a fan of Umberger. I just wish his contract was over one year earlier. Then the trade would have been easier to swallow.

Understandable.
- jak521

haha. I see what you did there.

per ek:
Jets listening to offers on Bogosian

Two sources have confirmed that the Jets will listen to offers on Bogosian and that he may be the player the team wants to move over Kane or Byfuglien.




If we trade with WPG I would much rather this guy instead of Byfuglien

It's also a lot more cap hit for those 2 years, as well.
- jmatchett383

But the scenario had Vinny and AMac going the other way... $9.5M out. They can use that $2M+ net and apply it to the forwards.

per ek:
Jets listening to offers on Bogosian

Two sources have confirmed that the Jets will listen to offers on Bogosian and that he may be the player the team wants to move over Kane or Byfuglien.




If we trade with WPG I would much rather this guy instead of Byfuglien
- J35Bacher

I'd rather overpay to rip Trouba out than either.

But the scenario had Vinny and AMac going the other way... $9.5M out. They can use that $2M+ net and apply it to the forwards.
- Tomahawk

But aren't most deals assuming we retain 50% of Vinny?

cool. youll have to let us know what the vibe is like and things of that nature
- SMS4016

Maybe someone can throw a shoe at Pierre and hit him in the eye.

I'd rather overpay to rip Trouba out than either.
- jmatchett383

I don't think Trouba is available or at least shoouldn't be

I'd rather overpay to rip Trouba out than either.
- jmatchett383

So would I, but you would be looking at a HUGE package for him.

But aren't most deals assuming we retain 50% of Vinny?
- jmatchett383

Not sure what Feanor had in mind, but my line of thinking is that AMac would be the inducement to prevent that.

Maybe someone can throw a shoe at Pierre and hit him in the eye.
- J35Bacher

"This shoe was bought at Kohl's. It came up in a great factory in China named Yu Yuen Industrial Ltd., one of the finest shoe making factories in the world. The shoe has a lot of potential to be a top-pair shoe one day."

Coots and or Simmonds
- Winning

Neither getting dealt...They traded Hartnell partially because they felt Simmer and him were the same player and simmer can fill his role. Coots will never be dealt. If they make a deal it would involve Schenn's, Laughton etc..... Breath easy those two will be safe

So would I, but you would be looking at a HUGE package for him.
- jak521

I'm aware of that.

But the scenario had Vinny and AMac going the other way... $9.5M out. They can use that $2M+ net and apply it to the forwards.
- Tomahawk

Idk about that. Might be giving up too much firepower...

But aren't most deals assuming we retain 50% of Vinny?
- jmatchett383

I'm not, especially not to Florida who need to reach the cap floor. I'd rather keep him for one more year than be stuck with $2 million in dead cap for four years.

"This shoe was bought at Kohl's. It came up in a great factory in China named Yu Yuen Industrial Ltd., one of the finest shoe making factories in the world. The shoe has a lot of potential to be a top-pair shoe one day."
- jmatchett383

Not enough run on sentences, IMO

"This shoe was bought at Kohl's. It came up in a great factory in China named Yu Yuen Industrial Ltd., one of the finest shoe making factories in the world. The shoe has a lot of potential to be a top-pair shoe one day."
- jmatchett383

I'm aware of that.
- jmatchett383

He is a stud. Likely cost you Couts ++

I wonder if we could get a Bogo/Kane package...

Says Schenns and our first for Bogo/Kane and their second? Probably cost a bit more than that even.

God I hate trades.

Lecavalier + 2nd Rounder to Florida for Scottie Upshall? If the Flyers have any chance of moving Vinny Florida is the team and it will require them retaining some salary and giving up a "substantial pick" in return..while taking back a player...the Flyers could grab Upshall I am told.

Eklund


please no
- Winning

That's too high of a price. Keep him and try again next year. Healthy scratch him for awhile until injuries come up.