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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 10:32 AM ET
"This shoe was bought at Kohl's. It came up in a great factory in China named Yu Yuen Industrial Ltd., one of the finest shoe making factories in the world. The shoe has a lot of potential to be a top-pair shoe one day."
- jmatchett383



What's the over/under on how many times Peirre mentions Crosby tonight in some way?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:33 AM ET
I'm not, especially not to Florida who need to reach the cap floor. I'd rather keep him for one more year than be stuck with $2 million in dead cap for four years.
- Feanor



Same... can only have a small number of RSA deals on the books (I think it's 3), so I'd rather not have one of those slots tied up if at all possible.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:35 AM ET
He is a stud. Likely cost you Couts ++

I wonder if we could get a Bogo/Kane package...

Says Schenns and our first for Bogo/Kane and their second? Probably cost a bit more than that even.

God I hate trades.

- jak521


I would do that in a heart beat... Both Schenn's our 1st, and a prospect for Kane/Bogo... Winnipeg would never do it, but I would.... We would of coarse have to make a VL move to make it fit under salary cap, but if this deal was on table Hexy would be a moron not to take it..... that all being said this deal will never be on the table
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:36 AM ET
What's the over/under on how many times Peirre mentions Crosby tonight in some way?
- J35Bacher


Im expecting no less than 30 Matty, Johnny, Jimmy, and Eddies.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:36 AM ET
What's the over/under on how many times Peirre mentions Crosby tonight in some way?
- J35Bacher


And has an mini orgasm while he's doing it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:38 AM ET
Is that what you said when they traded for Pronger?
- Feanor



The Flyers at the time were a team that was ready to contend with a few key more moves. I don't think this team is at that point yet. And Pronger is a Hall of Fame defenseman who is a difference maker. Campbell is not that player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:40 AM ET
He is a stud. Likely cost you Couts ++

I wonder if we could get a Bogo/Kane package...

Says Schenns and our first for Bogo/Kane and their second? Probably cost a bit more than that even.

God I hate trades.

- jak521


I'd try to do something like B Schenn, Coburn our first, next year's 2nd, and Hagg. And I'd do it.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:41 AM ET
The Flyers at the time were a team that was ready to contend with a few key more moves. I don't think this team is at that point yet. And Pronger is a Hall of Fame defenseman who is a difference maker. Campbell is not that player.
- MJL


Campbell and Pronger aren't even in the same ballpark, and Campbell is one of the most over payed players in the league. I would stay away
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:42 AM ET
I'd try to do something like B Schenn, Coburn our first, next year's 2nd, and Hagg. And I'd do it.
- jmatchett383

Absolutely brutal.

How many more points did Kane put up on BSchenn last year?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:42 AM ET
Funny how quickly your tune changed on that regard... because when we acquired a 35 year old Mark Streit it wasnt... idk.. nightmarish.

Guess it depends on the player..

- jak521



It depends on the situation. Funny how a competely different stuation with different circumstances is compared to another. In acquiring Mark Striet did the Flyers give up a much younger quality defenseman that is about 27 years old to add Streit? And also the fact that the Flyers already have one 35 year old offensive defenseman in the fold, is part of the reason why I don't think acquiring Campbell is a good move. Funny why that has to be explained.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:43 AM ET
I'd try to do something like B Schenn, Coburn our first, next year's 2nd, and Hagg. And I'd do it.
- jmatchett383


Sounds good to me, how nice would it be if Vinny would go to Winnipeg and we could just add him to this deal to make it nice and neat, but of course nobody wants to live in Winnipeg and I dont blame them
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:45 AM ET
It depends on the situation. Funny how a competely different stuation with different circumstances is compared to another. In acquiring Mark Striet did the Flyers give up a much younger quality defenseman that is about 27 years od to add Streit? And also the fact that the Flyers already have one 35 year old offensive defenseman in the fold, is part of the reason why I don't think acquiring Campbell is a good move. Funny why this has to be explained.
- MJL


Wasn't timonen on the flyers when they acquired Streit?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:45 AM ET
Let's go Flyers! Get it done, Hexy! Don't let me down.

nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:45 AM ET
Absolutely brutal.

How many more points did Kane put up on BSchenn last year?

- hereticpride


IMO, watching both players Kane has way more upside then B Schenn...I dont see all the hype around B Schenn. Good player not great player. Kane could be a great player and the winger we need to have a scary 1st line
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
Unfortunately Pronger and Umberger will still have a year left, but maybe there will be ways around that. I'm actually a fan of Umberger. I just wish his contract was over one year earlier. Then the trade would have been easier to swallow.
- Feanor


Yeah, but if the cap continues to rise as expected, that hit becomes smaller and smaller every year and he will probably be easily tradeable by that point.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
Absolutely brutal.

How many more points did Kane put up on BSchenn last year?

- hereticpride


What does Kane have to do with the deal?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
Wasn't timonen on the flyers HB they acquired Streit?
- funmaster18


It's really awkward when somebody is caught contradicting themselves.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:47 AM ET
Wasn't timonen on the flyers when they acquired Streit?
- funmaster18



Yes, but Timonen is more then an offensive puck moving defenseman in the class of Streit or Campbell.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:47 AM ET
Yeah, but if the cap continues to rise as expected, that hit becomes smaller and smaller every year and he will probably be easily tradeable by that point.
- nails


Anyone else thinking Pronger gets traded this offseason? Easy way for a bottom-feeder to make the floor without paying much.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'M BEING A STICKLER AND POKING HOLES IN SOMEONE'S ARGUMENT!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
It's really awkward when somebody is caught contradicting themselves.
- Tomahawk



There is no contradiction whatsoever. I consider Timonen a different kind of defenseman then Streit or Campbell.

What's awkward is when the point made isn't discussed, and the opinion isn't challenged, and instead the poster is. Because the point is reasonable.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
Yes, but Timonen is more then an offensive puck moving defenseman in the class of Streit or Campbell.
- MJL


So it's about style of play, not age then? Which is it? It's hard to keep track sometimes
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:49 AM ET
Bill, ya need your own website. Between the Flyers and Stars info, it'd be great.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:49 AM ET
There is no contradiction whatsoever. I consider Timonen a different kind of defenseman then Streit or Campbell.

What's awkward is when the point made isn't discussed, and the opinion isn't challenged, and instead the poster is. Because the point is reasonable.

- MJL


You offered nothing close to that opinion in the post I replied to
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:49 AM ET
IMO, watching both players Kane has way more upside then B Schenn...I dont see all the hype around B Schenn. Good player not great player. Kane could be a great player and the winger we need to have a scary 1st line
- nonpoint22

Key words: could be.

That is far too much to give up for a "could be" in my opinion.
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